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Atheism and Europe have Christian Roots claims Vatican

posted January 17, 2009 - 5:44am
Atheism and Europe have Christian Roots claims Vatican

The Vatican newspaper, the Osservatore Romano, yesterday published an article claiming that in Europe atheism has solid Christian roots, thereby trying to make the even wilder claim that atheism is a branch of Catholicism. However, the title of the article, "In Europe even atheism has solid Christian roots" [pdf], is also misleading in that the strongest message is that Europe too is defined in Christian terms and should remain purely Christian. The article is written by Pierre Manent and is also published in today's Vita e Pensiero. As far as I can see it is only in Italian - the Osservatore does publish weekly digests in English but it is uncertain if this particular article will be translated. Text in quotations are my translations from the Italian.

The article opens with the first of many extraordinary claims; that Europe is the region of the world defined by the conversion towards truth. As a statement on its own this sounds noble and the basis of philosophy and science. The millenial abuse of language from the Vatican should immediately make one wary of what conversion and truth actually mean here. Also note that this gives further ammunition to those who believe that the European Union is not just a peaceful expansion of democracy, peace and prosperity but the building of a Christian, or rather Catholic, superstate.

The next swipe comes against all other religions, with the claim that this 'conversion to the truth' is not only the foundation of Christianity, but that it is only Christianity that seeks the truth. "All other religions are obedience to the Law or the seeking of enlightenment." This is one more example of how the Vatican really sees other religions, including other Christian churches. It really does need to be highlighted over and over again - just in case Catholics and especially non-Catholics should ever forget - that the Vatican sees itself as a spiritual empire and that it will not rest until every single human being is baptised a Catholic. Participation in any inter-faith dialogue is purely self-serving and politically expedient in furthering conversion to the faith.

Going back to the idea of conversion to the truth, the atheist is thus on the same path, in search of the same truth. "Even he [the atheist] has converted when at the end of this search [...] he concludes that there is no God." Thus conversion is freely turning towards the seeking of objective truth. The atheist and the Christian are thus on the same path. The abuse of words now seeks to define 'conversion' as the setting off on the path of truth rather than the more obvious definition of conversion to Catholicism. For Catholics their religion is the truth, so the statement seems obvious but only to them.

This path involves a balance between liberty and truth. The author then laments that in our current society this balance has been broken in favour of liberty at all costs. No longer do we think of liberty in terms of the freedom to seek the truth, but rather the freedom to choose whatever we want just because we want it. There may be some truth to this. One sees very few adverts for wisdom and the stampedes towards the latest fads seem less than healthy. But let us see where Manent takes this line of thought.

The next target in the firing line is science. The current cultural paradigm of materialism, economic growth, product reviews, media hype and all the pressures to keep up with the times is a turning away from the true path. Manent sees this as a consequence of science, in that the scientific enterprise looks at phenomena without looking at the 'thing in itself'. "The knower does not have a relationship with the object of knowledge, and the viewer is not transformed by what he sees." The obsession to be entertained by external inputs is seen as a consequence of our desire to study phenomena.

The philosophical edifice of Christianity is exposed here, without the courtesy of explaining it to the reader, with its necessity to posit a 'thing in itself' behind every phenomena. This is not the place for a lengthy exposition on Platonic idealism or Hegelian metaphysics, but it is necessary to see that Christianity has to believe in the reality of metaphysical objects because its very doctrines depend on a metaphysical supernatural God. It strikes me that the belief and worship of a manufactured construct and obedience to the doctrines of the cult can be as much to blame for our culture's desire to be entertained by external objects and believe in the media as science.

The history of Catholic philosophy is one of struggle between articles of faith and Greek philosophy. The Church has been selective about which parts of pagan philosophy to absorb and transform and which to reject. In the discussion above it makes me think of Plato's Republic, where he talks about the importance and role of mathematics. Plato saw mathematics as having a dual role and possibly serving as a bridge between apparently disconnected human realms; the physical and the spiritual. At one extreme, mathematics is a useful and accurate tool in the service of science and technology (from the Greek techne). At the other pole the contemplation of its abstract nature can lead one to an inner esoteric world and to gnosis, or inner knowledge - enlightenment even (however bitter the word might taste in the mouth of Manent). Although what we call science has concentrated on the techne side of this continuum, it is thus possible to use the same techniques of experimentation and philosophy to look inwards. Indeed, such a body of knowledge and techniques exists in many branches of Eastern thought. The insult against Buddhism, noted above, is revealing in that the Vatican knows that at a philosophical and human level it is the antithesis of everything Catholicism stands for.

The final message of the article is a political one. That Europe is defined by Christian values and philosophy, by the freedom to take the path of (Christian) truth. That turning away from this path in the search of self-satisfaction and entertainment has also led to a political philosophy that departs from the true path. That the expansion of Europe is in danger of straying away from its Christian roots. This reference must surely be to the possible acceptance of Turkey, a secular state but predominantly Muslim, into the European Union. The Vatican message is clear. We are happy to expand Europe's spiritual domain by converting to Catholicism people in foreign lands but Europe's territorial domain must be clearly defined as Christian.

As this sermon is ultimately about the fate of Europe, why does the title even mention atheism? Perhaps, just as putting 'God' in the title of a book is sure to increase sales, so putting 'atheism' in the title of an article in a Catholic paper will increase readers.

The article is thus a thinly-veiled attack on many of the Vatican's enemies. The insult to all non-Catholics is the claim that Catholicism is the one and only truth. Therefore, anybody seeking the truth is actually on the Catholic path, whether they know it or not. Even atheists are on the same road but have lost the map. This is the very simple logic that Vatican propaganda uses over and over again. The apparently reasonable words are there as a foil to those who have not looked at Catholic doctrines in detail to see what precisely those words mean in the mouths of Catholics. As the Osservatore is the official Vatican paper it is mainly read by Catholics and they fully and completely understand the meanings behind words such as conversion and truth. The rest of us must not be misguided.

Original article at Asylum Joy

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The Empire Strikes Back

AAT2> just re-read your comment. Part of the answer is in the last paragraph of my article. By claiming Catholicism to be the only real truth then everyone who is seeking the truth (even if another one) is on the path to conversion, at least in theory. The sleight of hand is pretty obvious. As to converting non-believers rather than burning them, many of the most horrendous cases were of groups who had a slightly different interpretation of christianity and had to be either assimilated into the Catholic empire or destroyed. They were in no way agnostic or waverers, just a different cult to the cult of Rome. The Counter Reformation is the Empire Strikes Back. Join Xomba Here

The Roman Contract

Absolutely. Once upon a time the bishop of Rome was on a par with that of, say, Antioch or Alexandria. then came the Deal. The Roman aristocracy - by then split between christians and pagans - would put their money and weight behind an expansionist Roman Catholic empire. We're talking 4th and 5th centuries here. The plan is still unfolding. I was brought up in Rome right next to the Vatican walls. I wish I'd known about incense sticks at the time! Join Xomba Here

Do the teachers of Cathol deny their Roman Empiric roots?

I find it interesting how the adherents of the teachers of Cathol ignore the polytheistic pagan roots of the Roman Empire from which Catholicism directly descended. The Roman Empire took over other peoples and let them continue what they were doing in exchange for tribute. The Catholic Church took over other peoples and let them continue what they were doing (renaming pagan gods as saint whatever to give the appearance of propriety) as long as they sent tribute in form of tithing to Rome. By using and manipulating religion, the Church was able to do with its legions of priests what the Roman Empire with its legions of soldiers could not do: spread throughout the world. There is a reason attendance of Catholic mass is going down and it's not because the Church isn't doing everything it can to be more mainstream. Heck, even Second Vatican and the Ecumenical Movement, where Catholicism was supposed to work in a conciliatory manner with the other major religions of the world--Protestants included, didn't last long, although John Paul II gave it a good shot. What's interesting for those familiar with the Prophecies of St. Malachi is there is supposed to only be one pope after the current Benedict and he is "supposed" to be the Antichrist under the title of Peter. JOIN US IN TOASTING YOUR FUTURE SUCCESS!

Osservatore Romano website

Thanks for the comments. I'll write some more as and when I see an interesting article. One note on accessing the Osservatore. The paper seems to sell an online subscription that gives full access the files. It also requires a subscription to access the archives. What the public gets for free is a daily copy on the day of publication, but these always have the same URL so if you want to read yesterday's version it's gone! There is a pdf file archived but from what I've seen you only get the front page. So anybody reading this article in the future may well not be able to see the original article. If anybody doubts the existence of the original I suggest see if you can access it from your library or university. Join Xomba Here

Hello wHATUP

you really do remind me of the naughty boys at school. They made me laugh too. The article is really interesting and its great that the writer can include translations from Italian and make known opinion that we might not otherwise be privvy to. But there's never any harm done by an injection of humour - take care wHATUP

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Preferable to burning heretics at the stake

When did these extraordinary claims first emerge? If they had been repesentative of western "Orthodoxy" (in "" because the Catholic Church decided exactly what that was) in Medieval Europe, the slaughters which were the Crusades (particularly the seldom remembered Albigensian) and the torture and burnings by the Inquisition might never have taken place. Better all religions viewed their non-followers as prospective converts rather than simply misled or as heretics, hethens and infidels. It might lead to them attempting conversions through example rather than ranting, door-stepping and violence. Archaeologists of churchyards and their sites have often discovered the Pagan layers under those Catholic. Given the choice I'd therefore prefer to argue for the Pagan roots of Catholicism - the Trinity is a tad polytheist don't you think? - than for this. Do you think that - perhaps these claims are a modern continuation of Christianisation? Thanks for the article, informative and thought provoking, cheers! AndAnotherThing2

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all roads lead to Rome

Way before the Reformation the very concept of the Roman Catholic church alienated other christian communities in the Near East and North Africa who decided that all roads don't lead to Rome, thereby forming what are now the Orthodox, Coptic and other denominations. It's a very very old story indeed. Join Xomba Here

All Protestants are going to hell.

This is not anything new, ever since the Reformation the Catholic Church has stated that a non-believer (Infidel) has a better chance of getting into heaven than someone who follows the false Bible of Protestantism (heretic). As long as they don't commit the ultimate sin of denouncing the Holy Ghost. Nice thing about the modern Catholic Church is they believe good deeds can make up for minor sins, like being an Atheist.

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