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Chinese Gymnasts Age

posted August 26, 2008 - 8:12am
Chinese Gymnasts Age

IOC has indicated that the Chinese gymnasts ages are here to stay. I feel it is rightly so. Unfortunately media is not likely to leave them alone, for perceived unfairness against US athletes. Some of the media reports have claimed that a few gymnasts have not even shed their baby teeth. If an eight year old gymnast (yes those are claims i have read during the past fortnight) can perform as He Kexin did, i think IOC should confer a double gold on her! Well He might have been 14, but she doesnt look 14 too. So if she is 14, she could as well have been 16!
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Its not just He Kexin who was hounded. Yang Yilin too was not left alone. If she had secured a place ahead of Johnson in the Individual all round (yes she was ahead after uneven bars) she would have been hounded even more. Chinese women have a small structure. All media reports (IOC is looking at evidences fortunately, not reports) have given the actual date of birth of these gymnasts ranging from their "investigations" from 1992-1994. But while writing stories the same reporters made it out as if the gymnasts were 9-10 year olds! So wasnt there mass conspiracy there? No one is looking into the age of Shawn Johnson, or the hundreds others who participated! One thing I can bet on, two years from now when according to these American media reports, the Chinese gymnasts turn 16, they wont really be looking significantly older.

That its just a case of spite is evident at the carpings of some sections of media at the uneven bars final. When the age issue threatened to die down, faulty judging was blamed. I really feel some (or most) of the media people reporting hardly cared about facts and were only looking for sensationalism and selling copies.

Its a case of sheer sour grapes. And unfortunate for those graceful athletes Nastia Liukin, Shawn Johnson and Alicia Sacramone who did USA so proud! Unfortunately the American media is not exhibiting the same humility and grace shown by the gymnasts, swimmers and even the basketball team!

For me those little girls from China were clear winners, age 14 or 16, American media was not.

Here's latest on the Chinese gymnasts ages

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/gymnastics/news?slug=ap-gym-underagechinese&prov=ap&type=lgns

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Thanks for the comments, bronco

You got it right this time Bronco. My article was about the American media playing this up, the age issue, and sounding like sour grapes. Of course with your paranoia you wont believe having that sentiment is not Anti-American or Anti-anything, its just a view. Thanks for your comments. Do keep commenting, keeps the SEs interested...but no..better not visit this page, cant have you sick here! My writings here My profile here

Mamamia....Give It Up

As a matter of fact I'm always upset when things are not fair. Atlanta, Beijing...the home team seems to get favoritism. But your article was not about that. It was about the American media playing this up, the age issue, and sounding like sour grapes. I think Idlewild said it much better than me. What he wrote is true. I think you need to get your facts straight, Mama, because I go back to what I said earlier. Your article has an anti-American tone to it and I think that was your real motivation for writing this article. I'm amused how terrible us Americans are, yet here you are, making money on an American website. Pretty sickening if you ask me.

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yes Idle

I know all those arguments of younger gymnasts and limber bodies. And the reports of 8-9 year olds have all been on the net. seriously. In fact it was one such that prompted me to write the article. dont ask me to quote sources - i am not doing a thesis on the subject, i have not saved them. i read and move on. Cheating in Olympics is not new. And should not be condoned. So lets enjoy the gymnasts performance till they are proved guilty! My writings here My profile here

And

Were you upset at the bad judging at Atlanta and felt it was a "ridiculous" Olympics???!!! I would seriously say you dont know what you are talking about! My writings here My profile here

The facts speak for themselves

The info I stated has been confirmed by many sources, not just in the U.S. I don't know what news sources you read, but I've followed the Olympics pretty seriously in all kinds of media, mostly American, and not once have I seen even a single person suggest that these gymnasts are "8 or 9" years old. (In fact, I'd appreciate it if you'd mention here just what your source for that info is, since you're making that accusation.) Maybe the sources you got your information from are commentators, not journalists. Yes, the Chinese gymnasts perfectly very well, but that's not the point at all. The point is that Oympians take an oath to compete according to the rules, and if they are not following the rules, they are cheaters and do not deserve their medals, no matter how impressive their performances may be. In fact, younger gymnasts (14 Versus 16) have an advantage because they weigh less and their bodies are more limber, so they have a better chance of having an impressive performance. If a runner sets a world record in an amazing performance but it turns out she used banned substances, would you still award her the gold medal? That's the issue here: did they athletes follow the rules. The U.S. runner Marion Jones had some truly amazing Olympic performances in a past Olympics. But then she was found to have cheated by using performance enhancers. She was stripped of her medals, as she should have been. I didn't say anything about the judging, so I don't know what you're referring to. Also, your blurb makes it sound like it's been clearly established that the Chinese gymnasts are of legal age, but the article you link to says something quite different: The IOC president said he recieved documents from the Chinese : "“They have received the documents, and at first sight it seems to be OK.” Now that doesn't sound to me like a ringing endorsement of the documents' accuracy! The article also says: "Questions about the Chinese gymnasts’ ages have been swirling for months...", "Even though the competition had long since ended and the games were almost done, the IOC asked the FIG last week to check into the issue one more time..." I just think you should have referred to the legitimate concerns surrounding this issue and found out the facts before throwing around words like sensationalism, carping, and sour grapes.

Idle

There may be a clear case of hiding the age and IOC may yet prove it, but the columns and columns devoted to US gymnasts losing and how Chinese gymnasts have won just because of cheating is what i find ungracious, as also suggestions they were 8-9 year olds! They competed superbly - give them their due. The judges were same for everyone, if bad they were bad for everyone. Anyways these debates can go on and on. My writings here My profile here

I remember

I remember while watching the women's gymnastics (and I watched almost all of it) the commentators were talking a lot about how the scoring was not accurate. They were quick to note that the judges were from countries that have little or no gymnastic experience. If there can't be judges from the countries that are main competitors then we are stuck with judges that really aren't as skilled as say a Romanian judge or Russian judge. That might be why a lot of the scores were a bit off. The scoring is completely effed up anyway. We need the perfect 10 back and the way they break a tie makes no sense at all. Hopefully things will change for next time. And there was just cause for questioning the ages of the Chinese gymnasts. It's not like a guy from CNN was sitting home watching and said, "Hey, they look 14." and made up a story. I found myself actually feeling bad when the Chinese didn't win because I know how hard they have to train starting at 3 years old or so. The same with other countries. Angel RobinetteDesign.com http://robinettedesign.blogspot.com

Chinese Gymnasts

At 14, their bodies are still growing and stuff. I have always wondered if they stunt their growth or something. All those girls just happen to be really small and skinny like that? It doesn't seem natural to me. In addition, I don't think that kids that young need to be training for any sport like that. I think it just opens the door for body image issues in both men and women. I knew a lot of guys on the wrestling team that were always watching their weight and not eating and stuff just to make weight--even if they were already small built. It's some scary stuff, imo.

Chinese gymnasts

Mama, I think you're way off base on a couple of things... "For me those little girls from China were clear winners, age 14 or 16, American media was not." 1. As others have said, the age rules (and other rules) must be followed, or else the competitors are cheating and are subject to disqualification. So no, if the athletes are 14 they are NOT winners, because they are cheating and taking an unfair advantage. (By the way, the age limit was put in place to protect younger athletes from the extreme stresses of training on their young bodies.) 2. You make it sound like this controversy was created by the U.S. media -- it was not. You're not mentioning the fact that this controversy began when the Chinese national sports body posted information on the gymnasts that gave their birthdates -- dates that would have made them too young to be eligible for the 2008 Oympics. The Chinese authorities deleted the documents, but not before some reporters and other people had saved the Web pages. Both the IOC and the international gymnastics federation have been looking into this age controversy, and they were doing so months before the Beijing Games began. So you see, it's NOT the U.S. media that created this fuss (in fact, media around the world has also been reporting on it). It's the Chinese sports body that created the issue by posting dates on the Internet that showed a number of their athletes to be underage, then removing that information, then posting data that showed them to be of legal age. Anyone would have good reason to find that suspicious, Also, a Chinese gymnast who won two bronze medals in the 2000 Olympics has said that she was 14 years old at the time she competed. So there is a history of the Chinese playing these underage games at least once before that we know of.

Mama....

I just think that you don't know what you're talking about. Just because I say this you assume I'm upset because I'm an American? I'm upset because I believe in fairness and good judging! The Chinese were the best divers, don't get me wrong, but some of their marks were a bit high. If anyone got screwed in diving it was possibly the Canadian guy...not an American. As for gymnastics, I think the Chinese overall were better than the Americans but not in each event. And maybe they should just get rid of the age limit altogether. I think I just showed that I am hardly proving your point. And it doesn't surprise me that you don't want to get into a conversation about how you feel about the USA. I don't want to argue with you though. I call it homefield advantage. The Chinese had it. The US probably had skewed marks too in Atlanta and LA.

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