Clinton and Obama Once Had a Serious Relationship, Poll Shows McCain Beats Either one.
posted March 16, 2008 - 7:19pmA recent poll the Bloomberg info channel quoted, while highlighting McCain in Iraq, tries to dissuade Nader, showing that McCain beats either Obama or Clinton if Ralph Nader is in the race. They don't poll for a combined Clinton-Obama ticket. Few people even ask about an Obama-Clinton ticket.
Meanwhile, in Iraq, McCain woos absentee uniformed voters to be their leader. McCain's words imply he believes that the US can and will be able to withdraw from Iraq soon -- by 2050, for certain, cutting Bush Administration's time estimates to less than half. You may think I favor Bushites. NO, as a matter of fact it is a destructive meme. You should get your mind straightened out, if you think that -- but I am concerned about the people of Iraq.
If the "Bom, Bom, Bom, Bom-Bom Iran" can be employed maybe there is a chance. Iran in Iraq? You bet. Iraq still needs help. The best help for Iraq would be for their own Iraqi forces to eliminate Iranian presence in Iraq. Maybe McCain's old Hit Song will have a life in Iraq. Iraq does not yet grasp Democracy, and how corrupt it is even under a piece of constitutional guidance -- and a concept of law. But when they do grasp even the rudiments, they will not need the US presence. But they might be able to use US arms. If Iraq invades Iran with American backing, will the
A second Iran/Iraq war could become a real thing soon. Right now it is a protracted US Iran conflict on Iraq ground. That could change. Khomeini's legacy is the CIA present to the Middle East, behind the British Palestinian mess. Jerusalem was named for whom?
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Obama-Clinton OR Clinton-Obama
Of course, The Obama campaign doesn't want to put their guy second, but that is where Obama from a "business as usual" standpoint makes most sense in a one-term Clinton regime, but continuing the work we need to have done with her stepping aside or away after the next 4 years in office, or even if she does 8 years with him on the team -- no one would be better qualified for President, and the only way the current Republican regime could come to power again is to steal the elections again.
The only way for this to happen logically, is for Clinton to win the delegate count race leading up to the convention and to do that -- she is going to have to campaign skillfully and hard -- touching the real issues which are economy, jobs, energy production. Economy, Jobs, Energy Production. Health Care is a secondary issue and needs to be tabled until the Congress is changed in this coming election and the current administration is placed on the streets where they can be civilly and criminally prosecuted for their recent actions. She is going to have to participate in the Science Debate 2008, in Philadelphia at the Franklin Institute, April 18th, 2008. So are Obama and McCain going to have to participate.
At 60 Hillary is in the political prime -- and a very much longer time dulls her sharpness and viability. Obama could matured into a second Democratic term, and if he does it right, a third term. Hillary has only one shot. This is it.
The DNC doesn't currently have very good leadership clarity, and the superdelegates are not a thing very good to discuss now. Superdelegates should be eliminated. We are seeing a meltdown of the Democratic Party whose only real result will be to rebuild the practically destroyed Republican Party.
The DNC has not realized they have real problems if they don't start talking sense among themselves and to the Candidates. At some point, and soon, despite what is said on the campaign trail, the Democratic candidates have to move from debating each other to concentrating on beating up on McCain or even Nader who can easily out-debate them both, separately, or together, and Nader can bury McCain, not on his war torture record but on his torture-voting record.
What if Obama could recruit, uh. . .who? The surest way to lose the next presidential election is the way the Democrats will probably go -- and if Obama can't beat McCain, Obama's campaign and future is over.
Could he still be a Senator? Yes, but you can't really go for second and lose and become a Joe Lieberman, and you don't want to. Can Obama wait until 2016? Assuming he is run on the top of the ticket with "X" as a VP choice. He can't beat McCain. Not a chance.
From that position, and with absolute clarity, if Obama would become elected Vice President in 2008 -- he would hands down be "it" for the 2012 or 2016 time frames, and could be in top level office to Jan. 20, 2025. That could give McCain, who really is too old -- a loss. That loss is essential to turning the Looming CO2 Disaster aside.
Folks this next administration can turn the entire planet around -- but NOT if it is a Republican admistration. And honestly -- the species does not have time for other paths or more unlimited release of CO2 into the "commons" of our air.
But the DNC? And the Florida Democrats? Do you expect Howard Dean to lead them out of the problem? I fully expect the florida democratic superdelagates to continue to block progress and continue to self-destruct, especially with Howard Dean's solid help and judgment. Disenfranchisement? Absolutely. I do not think the Dem's from Florida that are the Super delagates should be allowed to hold their elected seats, should be immediately recalled and a new election convened, and new delegates selected for the Denver Party. Maybe the Florida democrats should support someone else. Or maybe the Democrats should be barred for "incomptence?" May be a new DNC leader/chairman would help. I sure think a new majority leader and Speaker would be in order for the Democrats. Start a new Party?
Nader is still the best choice for America because no-one owns him. That is worth more than 10 pharmaceutical and oil companies combined. Ralph must run. Ralph is smart and savvy enought to realize the real problems that face us. The problems with corporations as entities is that no honest examination of their contributions to the species survival are openly weighed. That has to change; their charters of existence as publicly traded entity needs to be reviewed and their existence considered by the society in which they operate. Corporations should not be vested by legal process as though they are human.
That is one thing Ralph would know how to fix.
The Banks do not "own" Nader. He might take the financial system apart -- make it honest. He is to be feared, by corporations and their directors. He might fix things instead of destroying them. But he is interested in the American citizens -- not calling them workers.'
Image:IPCC
If you study this graph you see the result of what CO2 in the atmosphere does to the planet. At this moment we have not done one thing as a government in the US to rescue the world from this plight we in the U.S. are primarily responsible for creating and allowing to continue, led by the U.S. unabated. (George W Bush and the previous Newt Gingrich Congress.)
On this graphic, there is no temperature scale, no quantity scale but you can see one of the important aspects of where the "temperature" curve begins, near or at the initial "zero that isn't zero" intersection of the graph, and seeing the 100 year vertical line mark and the 1000 year vertical line. The Temperature just kind of levels out, increases actually for 1000 years, and it does not come down. This is CO2 that is already in the Air. This is what will end up killing more the 90% of large mammals over the next 150 years. Most of you living to see the vanishing of the summer sea ice in the arctic ocean will see the demise of polar bear, just one of the many, many animals killed by out treatment of life on the planet. In subsequent years, nearly all the large mammals will succumb. The plants they live on will also perish, since they can't migrate their range as they could when the climate changed over thousands of years in the non-human influenced past.
Now you people who read English in all these places around the world. . . . Things, the problems, are really, really serious.
I kid you not. A global response led by the United States has to be built now in this coming American Administration simply to combat the CO2 already in the air. If it is not, depending on where you live, you are doomed. Billions will die. Many of those who will die are just now being born. But those of you who are in 25 or approaching 25 will live to see the
Billions. The final damages will occur as we pass beyond the year 2100, so far ahead, any of you who survive the next few years will have died before then. First, and sooner than 2025, besides accelerating species extinctions, you will begin seeing and noticing food shortages.
"Climate Change" is a euphemistic way to speak but avoid the responsibility, avoid the admission of involvement in the cause, and avoid the truth, of anthropogenic global warming -- AGW. These are deceptions the current US President and friends have learned well to avoid what is their true guilt and part in the events you will see unfolding before you.
An Example:
These problems are playing out in a microcosm in Darfur, and will continue to expand on a far larger scale in Africa, first then to other areas around the world. Here is a taste of what is happening in Darfur. These will continue, here or in similar places around the world as the man-caused climate change, change the weather and the rainfall. Nutritional differences point to diminished intelligence and religious differences and behaviors are an early symptom of the underlying pressure for life humans put upon marginal lands.
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The beginnings are starting to be seen in rainfall patterns and sub-Saharan dessication. An added consequence are the events that occur in places like this where one set of underprivileged and poor are brought to contact with others bent on genocide.
Image: US State Department
Image U S State Department
The Republican Plan is simple to understand: Get it while you can, before they come after you and take it back to where it really belongs. Steal as much now as you can. Try to find a slot where your children and their children will be in the kind of position to be among the "chosen" with money to be invested and saved, squirreled away as things worsen.
The extremely deprived poor people, who will not be reading this will "experience starvation."
And to hell with everyone else -- most of them are bums or deadbeats anyway, can't find a job or keep one. Unfortunately, that is what the Party of Abraham Lincoln has become. A place for the select wealthy exploiters of others to hang out. (It actually may be that most of these people will hang together.) To these people, "Experience Starvation" is only a minor thing when dieting to lose weight. "Experience Starvation" to these wealthy, is a concept, not a fact.
Read the State Department report here:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/36028.htm
This "experience starvation" wording is a euphemistic way of saying they will "starve to death."
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Many millions will die simply trying to reach a refugee camp somewhere with clean food and water.
It has not in the last years been a matter of not having the food to distribute and feed people. It has been a matter of political decisions, like those of George W Bush and a Congress to slow and delay or confound the delivery of food, water, medicine, in low intelligence "tribally controlled area's" where the recent movie, "Lords of War," showed the morality of what Bush and friends have built their fortunes upon. These matters of food distribution and water and medical supply distribution will occur over and over on larger and larger scales until the impossibility of human response is clear in the disaster. Billions will die.
In the Iraq of Hammurabi's time it was the storge of grains and the theft of mice from the stores of food that must be acounted for to get a people through the hard times.
Now-a-days, industrial processes and manufacturing work on a coordinated "Just in Time" kind of service timetable. As Global Warming continues as a result of things done with CO2 many, many years ago, the production of food and the consequent storage of food to meet the demands of hungry humans will be stressed beyond any mechanism to deliver such goods to people. The failures of crops will extend in same areas from season to season until it is clear the food system is broken down. Result. Deaths of billions. Ironically, all your money won't buy food where there is none.
Also, the "Just in Time" service plan will be confused as to the growing of food, and carried to precise extremes as though with FedEx and UPS, will not work well in areas where tribal minds confuse what is needed for people with personal gain. I wrote obliquely about this trying to point out the brain meme that confuses many otherwise intelligent people, in defense of DNA Nobelist James Watson recently. But the infections have hurt everyone, and the only way to improve intellect in Africa, is to use nutrition to combat it while people are young. That problem will be probably far exceeded by the change of Climate. In other words, most will die.
You may or may not understand what I am writing here, (depending on your early nutrition) and a lot of other factors. But please make no mistake. If the Republicans win another election the coming heat death, the end, almost certainly is preordained. Where will your grandchildren's children be when the Big Die-Off approaches them?
Here is some relaxed reading that is the result of an interview with James Lovelock, of the Gaia Hypothesis.
This is from the UK, "Guardian."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/mar/01/scienceofclimatechange.climatechange?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

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