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Constitutional Crisis hits the US Supreme Court

posted November 19, 2008 - 5:18pm
Constitutional Crisis hits the US Supreme Court

Is Barack Obama a "natural born citizen" of the United States?


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Yeah, see you in the FEMA concentration camp.

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Nope

I don't understand you. Doesn't matter. Don't need to. I understand what is happening. I understand the law just fine when it comes the presidential elctions. My government teacher drilled it into my clasmates and myself so we wouldn't have our rights trampled on. Despite the negative opinions of the few, Obama is and will most likely remain President. I'm glad he is who he is. If he is Iron-Willed then this country has a fighting chance. In the end you will see he is as legal as he is suppose to be to be President of The United States. Reverend Conner I affilliate for: River Offers-- htt://ld.net/?the_future MetaPot- http://www.metapot.com/affSN22/idevaffiliate.php?id=219 Jiaogulan- http://www.projectgoodlife.com/hc/scripts/t.php?a_aid=Lee1973&a_bid=b9fd8b64

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I take it you're not a big

I take it you're not a big fan of the law...or maybe you just don't understand it. Who is Publius? Join Xomba and get PAID to write - CLICK HERE!

This Could Be Possible

Maybe he is just bull headed and headstrong like most people I meet. At least it shows a strong will if that is the case and a strong sense of his own character. The downside is we don't get to see what his character is truely like. Being bull-headed and headstrong also shows determination, and a very possible ability to advance inspite of what others think of him. Maybe he doesn't think he has anything to prove. These are all things I run into with people with ironclad wills. Most likely, he probably doesn't like feeling bullied. Do you like being bullied or pushed around, made to try and prove something that you were certain you already proved? Reverend Conner I affilliate for: River Offers-- htt://ld.net/?the_future MetaPot- http://www.metapot.com/affSN22/idevaffiliate.php?id=219 Jiaogulan- http://www.projectgoodlife.com/hc/scripts/t.php?a_aid=Lee1973&a_bid=b9fd8b64

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You can "think" and

You can "think" and "believe" whatever you like, but that does not make it fact. And this has nothing to do with "nationality" - it has to do with the law and the constitutional requirements for the presidency. Your assumption that everyone in the military has to be a proven citizen doesn't really give me much confidence in the system...since there have been several cases of illegal aliens serving. I also know that when I joined, I only had to produce a certified copy of a birth certificate, not an original, long version "vault" form. This is not about winning or losing an election either. The issue was brought up before Obama even received the official nomination from the Democrat Party. It's about upholding the Constitution, who has the legal right to do so, and challenging the eligibility of those who will be running our federal government. And if Obama has already proven to the "powers-that-be" that he was in fact born in Hawaii, then why doesn't he simply release the document to the lawyers that are challenging him instead of filing for dismissals on technicalities? He can put the entire issue to rest by doing one simple action - providing his "vault" form to any one of the courts that are presiding over any of the multiple cases or the lawyers that are challenging him. I'm hoping he does that and I'm hoping that he was in fact born in Hawaii, otherwise we are facing a serious problem here. But so far, it appears that he will not release the information unless ordered to and that the document may prove something that he does not want the public to know. So much for being "transparent" and honest with the American People. Who is Publius? Join Xomba and get PAID to write - CLICK HERE!

I'm Sorry

I just can't believe some people. I am certain the man is a native born american I don't even think his nationality would be a question if the guy was white. I'm sorry if I offend any with this comment, but I think I am right, and it is only an opinion. I find the entire subject of his origin to be outragously stupid. I do care whether he is or not, but I think the white house has that covered. Especially with all the questions about it. As for his religion. That part I don't care about. It is his right as an american to practice, preach or studied what ever religion he wants. Maybe he did practice the muslim religion once, maybe he invested some time studying it. Maybe it embarrasses him to talk about it. Maybe he really never did and everyone has this whole thing blown out of proportion, because they don't like him for whatever reason entirely of their own choosing. maybe it isn't that he is black , but instead some people don't like hime because: they believe him to be to thin to, young, or whatever. Sorry to hear that. I'm also sorry to reveal the sad truth. Your side lost the presidential election. Better luck next round. I've read ridiculous tales of him being the antichrist because his name obama means lightening. I personally think these people are nuts. Again, my opinion. I'm certain he has to prove his origin of birth before getting sworn in. I'm glad obama is president. It should give all americans a sense of hope and peace, instead the only thing we can do is bicker about his nationality. I don't think he would have gotten this far if he was unable to prove what country he was born in. How many of you who are pitting this ridiculous debate have run for president of the united states? I know I haven't, but when I was signing up for the military I had to prove I was a american or I couldn't get in. I'm certain anyone who has been through the proceedures of signing up for the service knows what it takes to get in. I'm certain they are even more careful about elected officials getting into the presidential office. Sure the white house politicians may seem like a load of classclowns only after our money. However, I don't think they want someone who can't verify their origin of birth inside the presidential office either. Can we give the man a real chance? Do we always have to have some sort of wild goose chase every presidential election? It doesn't matter who gets elected really, you can't please everyone. The only important part is that he proves his origin of native birth to the white house which will then show everyone else. Reverend Conner I affilliate for: River Offers-- ld.net/?the_future MetaPot- http://www.metapot.com/affSN22/idevaffiliate.php?id=219

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Obama's birth certificate "fuss"

The fuss is about the birth certificate. Let me sum it up for you. In the State of Hawaii, you can receive a "birth certificate" even if you were not born in the state. The long-version certification of live birth (the "vault" form) is the document that could settle the debate. That form contains all of the important stuff - like which hospital you were born in, the signatures of both parents and witnesses/doctors, the reason for filing a form late (if applicable), etc. If it turns out that Obama was not born in Hawaii - even though he has a birth certificate by Hawaii - then that raises the question about two things: 1) Is he considered a "natural born" citizen, and 2) is he eligible for the presidency? According to immigration and naturalization laws at the time of his birth, if he was born outside the United States, he would not be an automatic citizen at birth. The law required that if born outside the United States by one citizen parent and one non-citizen parent, the citizen parent had to meet specific qualifications to extend "at birth" citizenship. The citizen parent had to be a citizen at the time of birth for at least five years after the age of fourteen. That means Obama's mother - the citizen parent - had to be 19 years old. But she was only 18 and therefore could not extend citizenship status to her son at birth. This means Obama would have to have been naturalized...which would make him ineligible to serve as president, since that position requires one to be a "natural born" citizen. But all of this speculation would go away if Obama simply released his original vault records. At this point, he has refused every request to do so. Does that help answer your question about the "fuss"? Who is Publius? Join Xomba and get PAID to write - CLICK HERE!

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Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground. *Govern* transitive verb 1 a: to exercise continuous sovereign authority over ; especially : to control and direct the making and administration of policy in b: to rule without sovereign power and usually without having the authority to determine basic policy 2 aarchaic : manipulate b: to control the speed of (as a machine) especially by automatic means 3 a: to control, direct, or strongly influence the actions and conduct of b: to exert a determining or guiding influence in or over c: to hold in check : restrain 4: to require (a word) to be in a certain case 5: to serve as a precedent or deciding principle for intransitive verb 1: to prevail or have decisive influence : control 2: to exercise authority *reign* intransitive verb 1 a: to possess or exercise sovereign power : rule b: to hold office as chief of state although possessing little governing power 2: to exercise authority in the manner of a monarch 3: to be predominant or prevalent In short, man controls man's actions and judgments on the earth. The greatest sin (not quoting anybody here) is therefore 'disabling one from making those actions and judgments---disablements up to- and including-murder ('instilling fear' is one of those too, but True Christians--today's Gnostic-Gospellers--know that the true culprits there are those who profit from the 'holding on to the fear of judgment'). ---Uncle MythMan (http://www.geocities.com/jmythh2k5) & the Xombies Help You with Money, Love, God etc. Use Your Evolved Mind & GET PAID BY SAVING THE DIALOG STARTERS!

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I forget the name of the lecturer in the series on the history of language, but he made it clear that most languages are 'dialects that begin as creoles'---from the first 'grunting differently to indicate different messages' to 'subcontinent slaves shipped to- and made to work in-areas speaking "enlightened" languages.' For more about the development of language, check out the most-supercalifragilisticexpialidocious linguist I've ever met as she explains the scrumtrilescent evolution of our favorite words. ---Uncle MythMan (http://www.geocities.com/jmythh2k5) & the Xombies Help You with Money, Love, God etc. Use Your Evolved Mind & GET PAID BY SAVING THE DIALOG STARTERS! P.S. And you can go ahead and call me a 'cunning linguist' if you find that humorous ... I wear the badge with pride!

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