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First Ever Xomba Online Workshop Partial Transcript Jan 2008

posted January 17, 2008 - 3:56pm
First Ever Xomba Online Workshop Partial Transcript Jan 2008

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[7:11:36 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We wanted to hold this little workshop so you guys can feel more connected to us.
[7:11:47 PM] =baronetta= Is there audio for this workshop?
[7:11:54 PM] =Xomba_Admin= No I am afraid not.
[7:12:11 PM] =baronetta= then people should mute themselves!
[7:12:27 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We thought it would be easier to answer questions and discuss things without audio until we get used to this program.
[7:13:02 PM] =angelskates= are you doing this by chat or by phone... I cannot download the phone right now... computer is on last legs....
[7:13:05 PM] =baronetta= oh, that's much better!!!
[7:13:30 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok, so as I was saying we've been working on a new site design
[7:13:42 PM] =Xomba_Admin= But before we get to that I want to talk about some rules.
[7:14:10 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We've been taking our rule policy pretty seriously lately.
[7:14:39 PM] =Xomba_Admin= So if you are not aware of our rule policy then you should make sure you review it asap.
[7:15:35 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We're cracking down especially hard on plagiarizers. You are only allowed to post content that you own.
[7:16:05 PM] =Xomba_Admin= By doing this we're making the content on the website much more valuable.
[7:16:38 PM] =Xomba_Admin= There have been lots of discussion about making money and how much money you can make on Xomba.
[7:17:11 PM] =Xomba_Admin= The good news is that it is very possible to earn money from writing .
[7:17:29 PM] =Xomba_Admin= There is no reason why someone shouldn't make at least $100 a month.
[7:17:59 PM] =Xomba_Admin= As long as they take the time in experimenting with what works and have patience.
[7:18:34 PM] =Xomba_Admin= If you are only on the site for a month then you'll probably not be making to much. We have found the learning curve to be about 3.
[7:19:08 PM] =Xomba_Admin= That's really the bad news. There is no magic wand or step by step instructions to do this.
[7:19:30 PM] =baronetta= Sorry to interrupt... but when you make long comments they get cut off.
[7:19:56 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We, along with other users (who are making $500+), do have some strategies.
[7:20:25 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Please let me know if you see a comment that gets cut off.
[7:20:41 PM] =Guest 5= none so far
[7:20:49 PM] =Xomba_Admin= As you know we have two types of content on Xomba.
[7:20:55 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Xomblurbs and Xombytes
[7:21:32 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Xombytes are basically magazine type articles. Hence, why we raised the word count to 50 words. We might even go up to 100.
[7:21:57 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Xomblurbs should be thought of as a social bookmark.
[7:22:15 PM] =baronetta= For me everything past "50 words. We" was cut off
[7:22:20 PM] =baronetta= Sorry...
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[7:22:48 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Basically, a way to say "Hey, look at this. You need check this out"
[7:23:06 PM] =xombabaldwin= It's not getting cut off here, make sure your window is maximized
[7:23:23 PM] =Guest 5= not cut off here either
[7:23:27 PM] =baronetta= Yes, maximized...
[7:23:28 PM] =Xomba_Admin= You get most of your reads on these by people searching on Google/Yahoo
[7:24:05 PM] =Xomba_Admin= So, when writing your title make sure you think about how a person may search on a search engine.
[7:24:09 PM] =Guest 8= can i ask questions?
[7:24:25 PM] =xombabaldwin= Questions will be taken in a few minutes
[7:24:46 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Also make sure you are a writing quality content.
[7:25:04 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Meaning write things that you yourself would find interesting.
[7:25:23 PM] =Xomba_Admin= If you put passion in your writing people will want to read it more.
[7:25:58 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Also take a look at the Google Adword tool.
[7:26:09 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Let me get you the link.
[7:26:28 PM] =Xomba_Admin= https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
[7:27:05 PM] =Xomba_Admin= This is a free tool that will suggest keywords/phrases and show you the search demand and if the term is has a lot of ad bidders.
[7:27:25 PM] =Xomba_Admin= The higher people bidding on the keyword then most likely the higher the pay per click.
[7:27:43 PM] =Xomba_Admin= I know a lot of you like to use www.google.com/trends
[7:28:05 PM] =Xomba_Admin= However, most people use this and there are other topics that can make money.
[7:29:02 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Also we recently added a social bookmarking tool.
[7:29:39 PM] =Xomba_Admin= If you look xombytes and xomblurbs you will see a little icon that let's you bookmark your articles on other sites.
[7:29:52 PM] =Xomba_Admin= This can be a great way to get exposure to your articles!
[7:30:28 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Plus, it creates what is called a backlink to your article that Google loves and could possibly bring you a little higher in the search results.
[7:30:39 PM] =Xomba_Admin= I would highly suggest you use it.
[7:31:03 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Please do not use the tool on the my Xomblurb or My Xombyte pages. It doesn't work right.
[7:31:28 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Make sure you only use it when viewing just your article.
[7:31:55 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Around August a friend of mine wrote the following Xombyte.
[7:31:59 PM] =xombabaldwin= http://www.xomba.com/hot_toys_for_christmas_2007
[7:32:17 PM] =Xomba_Admin= The article above made that user $62
[7:32:34 PM] =Xomba_Admin= This was not because of Google Trends.
[7:32:47 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Just keep that in mind.
[7:33:13 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Now I want to talk to you guys about the redesign we are doing, but let's take a few questions since it is already after 8:30.
[7:33:21 PM] =Guest 8= is there a rule in xomba which says that same link cannot be used by more than one person?
[7:33:25 PM] =Xomba_Admin= So, ask a way.
[7:33:29 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok,
[7:33:47 PM] =Guest 5= tell us about not writing more than one article on any topic
[7:34:10 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Good Question. Pretty soon we will have it so you can only link to one thing.
[7:34:36 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Meaning, if someone uses a link to www.example.com/abc no one else can link to it.
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[7:34:55 PM] =mariane= New members are unable to keep their referrals because older more successful members lure them to register again under their link.
[7:35:01 PM] =Guest 5= would that be in a Xomblurb?
[7:35:09 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We are also doing the same to titles of articles as well.
[7:35:13 PM] =Guest 8= yes, in blurbs
[7:35:18 PM] =mariane= What can you do to safeguard and make referral profitable for new members?

It makes the referral program useless other than for those who are earni
[7:35:32 PM] =mariane= earning big money
[7:35:49 PM] =angelskates= I am getting confused.
[7:35:54 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok, hang on
[7:36:01 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Let me take Guest 5's question
[7:36:23 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We encourage you to write multiple articles on a certain topic.
[7:36:35 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Like if you like Spring Fashion or Basketball.
[7:36:41 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Write till your hearts content.
[7:36:46 PM] =Guest 5= this is champagnedreams
[7:37:03 PM] =Guest 5= I was informed not to write more than one article
[7:37:07 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Or do you mean writing about the same thing in different ways
[7:37:12 PM] =Guest 5= yes
[7:37:20 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok yeah that would be spamming
[7:37:27 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Let me give you an example
[7:37:39 PM] =Guest 5= so I could not have www.sony.com and sony.com for titles?
[7:37:50 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Britney Spears Picture you should not also post Britney Spears Photo
[7:37:55 PM] =Xomba_Admin= No.
[7:38:15 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Not unless you are writing about separate things. That's just spamming
[7:38:33 PM] =Guest 5= a lot of people are still doing that
[7:38:45 PM] =Xomba_Admin= That's like me writing 30 articles on Xomba is Great, Xomba is Good, Xomba is wonderful, Xomba is fantastic.
[7:38:55 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Flag them.
[7:39:06 PM] =mariane= how can we know thaat what we want to write is already written?
[7:39:14 PM] =baronetta= My sponsor told me to submit the same article 3 times with different titles.
[7:39:20 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We're adding a feature to the flag item that will REQUIRE you to enter a reason why you are flagging it.
[7:39:25 PM] =baronetta= So, that's not good, right?
[7:39:58 PM] =Guest 8= can i ask now?
[7:40:03 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Mariane, it's not about what other people write. This person means about what they write.
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[7:40:40 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Sponsors are just users who call themselves sponsors. They do not represent Xomba.
[7:40:44 PM] =xombabaldwin= one second guest 8
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[7:41:01 PM] =Xomba_Admin= So, to clear things up.
[7:41:21 PM] =mariane= after you write the article that is when you see other 5 on same topic.why can't we get to see that before we write?
[7:41:25 PM] =Xomba_Admin= You cannot write the same thing in different ways. This has nothing to do with what other people write.
[7:41:47 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Angelskates and I can write about the same thing. No problem
[7:42:01 PM] =mariane= understood
[7:42:08 PM] =Xomba_Admin= If Angelskates posts 5 Xomblurbs about the same thing just trying to make different titles that is spamming
[7:42:21 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Just using Angelskates as an example :)
[7:42:29 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok Marianne your question
[7:42:30 PM] =angelskates= I know
[7:42:37 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Referrals
[7:42:44 PM] =Xomba_Admin= we are not aware of any abuse.
[7:42:57 PM] =Xomba_Admin= People are luring people away?
[7:43:10 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Please explain and then Guest 8 we'll take your question.
[7:43:26 PM] =mariane= most of our referrals change and get other usernames
[7:43:45 PM] =mariane= if you check by IP address you will see the abuse
[7:43:57 PM] =Xomba_Admin= You mean they have Xomba pimps?
[7:44:05 PM] =angelskates= or adsense number
[7:44:08 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Because that is what it sounds like
[7:44:15 PM] =mariane= by promises of how to make thousands in Xomba
[7:44:41 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok, please send us an email on who is doing this. We'll post something this week warning that that is against the rules.
[7:44:50 PM] =Xomba_Admin= (We'll create the rule)
[7:45:17 PM] =Xomba_Admin= We weren't aware of this.
[7:45:20 PM] =mariane= Not Pimps, my if i register under you then i read that another member can show me how to make more i register again under their link
[7:45:25 PM] =angelskates= are the people trying to get new users to do this or are the people just doing it on their own?
[7:45:42 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok, please email us and we'll look into it.
[7:45:52 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Guest 8 please ask your question
[7:46:14 PM] =mariane= Thanks i'll do so
[7:46:18 PM] =Guest 8= i got this link (eg, 123.com) to an online video streaming sports site and i have got many sports links that i use.
[7:46:27 PM] =Guest 8= but whenever i use 123.com link, one of the fellow users sends msgs saying that I cannot use this link since he is already using it.

[7:46:36 PM] =Guest 8= Plz clear this up for me
[7:47:08 PM] =Xomba_Admin= There is no problem.
[7:47:14 PM] =Guest 8= this is for blurbs
[7:47:19 PM] =jessabad= I have the same problem that guest 8
[7:47:23 PM] =Guest 8= u mean i can use it
[7:47:33 PM] =angelskates= in line for a question please
[7:47:53 PM] =Xomba_Admin= However, when we switch over to unique links then you will only be able to link to one page once. Like www.example.com/asdfg
[7:48:02 PM] =xombabaldwin= you will be next angelskates
[7:48:07 PM] =Xomba_Admin= First, let me make this clear.
[7:48:13 PM] =Xomba_Admin= I own this Xomba
[7:48:21 PM] =Guest 8= right
[7:48:27 PM] =baronetta= can you show the example again? Cut off...
[7:48:45 PM] =Xomba_Admin= If someone is yelling/warning you that is not myself or Baldwin or someone we introduce as staff you need to contact us immediately.
[7:48:50 PM] =xombabaldwin= baronetta: Like www.example.com/asdfg
[7:49:15 PM] =baronetta= and only one submission can link to a unique url?
[7:49:20 PM] =Guest 8= he tells me he will get me banned
[7:49:36 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Users should not be telling other users what is appropriate. That is why you can flag or contact us to complain about a user.
[7:49:55 PM] =Guest 8= next time i am just going to do that
[7:50:00 PM] =Xomba_Admin= LOL. Please email us Guest 8. We'll take care of this.
[7:50:05 PM] =Guest 8= u sure hv some bullies around
[7:50:10 PM] =xombabaldwin= baronetta: yes
[7:50:17 PM] =Guest 8= thank u so much
[7:50:34 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Well unless it comes from Baldwin or myself please contact us.
[7:50:52 PM] =Xomba_Admin= ok.
[7:50:58 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Angeskates shoot...
[7:51:14 PM] =angelskates= NOw I have two questions... number one
[7:51:29 PM] =angelskates= I have a website with recipes that I have written and guides to cooking
[7:51:38 PM] =Xomba_Admin= ok
[7:52:00 PM] =angelskates= What I am understanding is that I cannot post a blurb with a link to that site for how to by shrimp
[7:52:15 PM] =Xomba_Admin= sure you can
[7:52:18 PM] =angelskates= and another blurb with a link to the recipe for shrimp scampie..
[7:52:42 PM] =angelskates= is that what you mean by only one link to a site
[7:52:57 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Why did you think you couldn't?
[7:53:06 PM] =Xomba_Admin= oh ok
[7:53:09 PM] =Xomba_Admin= No let me explain.
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[7:54:12 PM] =angelskates= they are both on the same page
[7:54:16 PM] =Guest 5= I have a question
[7:54:21 PM] =Xomba_Admin= you can link to www.xomba.com/123 and www.xomba.com/567
[7:54:30 PM] =Xomba_Admin= ahh
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[7:54:44 PM] =Xomba_Admin= if it is the same url then no
[7:55:10 PM] =angelskates= yes, they have the same url.... lots of discreet blocks of info at one url
[7:55:19 PM] =Xomba_Admin= I'm not talking domain just urls
[7:55:27 PM] =angelskates= so am I
[7:55:32 PM] Guest 10 has joined the chat
[7:55:43 PM] =angelskates= each page is three columns
[7:55:49 PM] =angelskates= with different info
[7:55:53 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Does that make sense?
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[7:56:12 PM] =angelskates= shopping info, cooking info, and reference info
[7:56:27 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Then I am afraid it will not work.
[7:56:43 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Think what Digg.com does.
[7:57:21 PM] =Xomba_Admin= your next question and then guest 5
[7:57:23 PM] =Xomba_Admin= (you can email us and we can talk further about that)
[7:57:26 PM] =ParadiseForever= I have a question
[7:57:48 PM] =xombabaldwin= question order: angelskates, quest 5, paradiseforver
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[7:58:14 PM] =angelskates= second question.... if I write an article about an incident from a news view point... just the facts and they I write about it from a viewpoint is tha
[7:58:21 PM] =angelskates= that not allowed
[7:58:25 PM] Xomba_Admin has joined the chat
[7:58:42 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Example?
[7:58:59 PM] =Xomba_Admin= oh wait
[7:59:06 PM] =Xomba_Admin= That is fine
[7:59:10 PM] =angelskates= bigfoot pictures
[7:59:11 PM] =Xomba_Admin= That's not fan.
[7:59:16 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Spam*
[7:59:31 PM] =angelskates= I wrote as news and I wrote as is this a hoax
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[8:00:05 PM] =Xomba_Admin= If you wrote multiple blurbs linking to the same thing and titled them differently like bigfoot pictures, bigfoot photos, bigfoot images
[8:00:19 PM] =Xomba_Admin= and the body of the blubs was all the same or about the same
[8:00:21 PM] =angelskates= so the articles can be about the same subject as long as they are materially different.
[8:00:27 PM] =Xomba_Admin= right right
[8:00:39 PM] =angelskates= ok
[8:00:47 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok guest 5 your question
[8:00:49 PM] =Guest 5= If you are going to increase the Xombytes to 100 words, then is it possible to make the URL link in Xomblurbs optional?
[8:01:40 PM] =Guest 5= sometimes we just want to write short articles that may not have a link
[8:02:03 PM] =Xomba_Admin= No, and the 100 word limit has not been decided.
[8:02:08 PM] =mariane= a comment
[8:02:28 PM] =Xomba_Admin= go ahead
[8:02:33 PM] =mariane= There is a user who keeps putting comments on our articles and the comments is a pornographic video link.
[8:02:35 PM] =Guest 5= okay
[8:02:37 PM] =Xomba_Admin= right, we delete it as we see it
[8:02:38 PM] =Xomba_Admin= every website deals with this unfortunately
[8:02:40 PM] =xombabaldwin= we block anyone who posts pornography
[8:03:17 PM] =Xomba_Admin= ok paradise you have a question
[8:03:23 PM] =ParadiseForever= When we post a xombyte or blurb, there are sections "Tags" and "Keywords" what is the difference between the two ? with respect to SEO
[8:03:44 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Tags are used by Xomba specifically
[8:03:58 PM] =Xomba_Admin= VERY IMPORTANT
[8:04:12 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Xomba uses them to look at things like related articles
[8:04:18 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Keywords
[8:04:38 PM] =Xomba_Admin= are used by search engines however, most search engines don't use these anymore
[8:04:55 PM] =Xomba_Admin= So stick with tags if nothing else
[8:05:04 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Search engines use spiders to crawl text on a page. They don't look at keywords in a field
[8:05:13 PM] =ParadiseForever= thanks
[8:05:39 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Basically, the verdict is still out if the keywords are useful at all.
[8:05:54 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Tags are very useful
[8:06:02 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Just make sure you only list a few and that they are relevant
[8:06:04 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Ok, last chance any other questions
[8:06:10 PM] =Guest 9= I have one
[8:06:15 PM] =xombabaldwin= go ahead
[8:06:44 PM] =Guest 9= I forgot about the workshop, so I was wondering if this information will be in an archive or something so that it can be read later
[8:06:52 PM] =Xomba_Admin= yup
[8:07:12 PM] =Xomba_Admin= actually
[8:07:13 PM] =angelskates= I have a comment
[8:07:26 PM] =Guest 9= cool
[8:07:49 PM] =Xomba_Admin= we had some technical problems and I am being told we will not have it :(
[8:07:55 PM] =Xomba_Admin= So if anyone has it all logged in and can copy and send it to us in email we would be happy to post it
[8:08:11 PM] =Xomba_Admin= Go ahead angel
[8:08:33 PM] ajith has joined the chat
[8:08:36 PM] =angelskates= It has bee my experience that if you
[8:09:12 PM] =angelskates= write a short little blurb people do not stay on the page long enough to read the ads......
[8:09:32 PM] =angelskates= and if they dont read them they dont click them
[8:09:43 PM] =angelskates= IMHO

In response Nick commented that it worked differently for different people and then some tech problems started.

At this point the Xomba Admin started cutting on and off and everytime is showed as having left the room the program blinked and I was not able to capture the rest. It also started getting really slow to type into and there was a long delay between typing and the text appearing.

There was discussion about the new widget that is under development...

Maybe someone else got the last part....

It was a great workshop. I learned a lot.

Angel



Comments

Reads, yeah.

Re-design? Gee. I woulda thot that reads would be part of the re-design. I also look forward to their getting the last-in first-out stack and indexing problems fixed. They used to work until the arrangement of an archives, and that is also stacked down side up. Glad to hear it. There IS plenty to do. I still enjoy poetry. . .

Reads

He actually did address that at the end as still being worked on.... I think the update and the redesign take precedence. He also discussed a widget in the works that would allow other websites to have a little spot we could click and blurb them.... Neat huh... Angel

great angel...

thanks...all these would make xomba better! ...esp. multiple postings from same link...it was getting bitter around here I can see Nick's made no mention of getting those reads back! Make Money On Xomba. Learn how. let's preserve the world for our children, thats the least they deserve...

great angel...

thanks...all these would make xomba better! ...esp. multiple postings from same link...it was getting bitter around here I can see Nickk's made no mention of getting those reads back! Make Money On Xomba. Learn how. let's preserve the world for our children, thats the least they deserve...

There was a delay

There was a delay between submitting the comments and the appearance of the comments... I commented a couple of times about things that had already been answered by the time it posted my question... I thought it went very well... and we kind of got the timing down after a bit... Until it got a little weird there at the end... I tried to right click and copy off the end, but it would not let me right click at all... I wonder if we stressed it by having such a long session.... maybe it just overloaded and frizzled away... Angel

Thanks for posting it.

This was great, thank you for saving it Angel! I can't believe it, but I actually read the whole thing :) lol I wish I had been in it. However, I think it need more organization, everyone kept popping in and asking questions or commenting, which made it difficult for xomba administrator to answer. Overall, it's pretty good for a first ever workshop. Way to go xomba!

Angel, thanks very much! Bit buck is big.

I enjoyed reading the 90% you captured. I still have questions, but Nick will probably see that from the questions on links -- he needs to get busy and write some clear content and examples that clarify the link thing-y. And the misunderstandings about it. Goodeboy06, I have NEVER seen American Idol -- Mainly because I think of the little simon owner guy as a weasel exploiter and rigger. Just my opinion. SO I have never stomached more than 5 minutes, if that much. (maybe re-runs????) I do not think so. . .) My attempt to get on the talkshoe probably case the comm problems )or not( but I do not know how it works yet and look forward to another time in the future. Thanks Angel!

Thanks.

Thanks Angel for the transcript. I forgot about the workshop and got pulled into watching "American Idol". :)

Eureka

Ok, that worked.... Angel

Hmmmm Problem

Ok, there is a problem with posting through the bbb editor... it is ignoring the labels of who is talking as they are enclosed in little bracket things. Anybody have any ideas? I will make a copy in a wp and see if I can do a global substitution and repost if it I can...... If any one has a better idea????? Angel

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