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Have the USAF Nuclear Whistleblowers Been Cheneywhacked?

posted September 19, 2007 - 12:24am
Have the USAF Nuclear Whistleblowers Been Cheneywhacked?

I just found out about this story a few minutes ago. It seems that the brave Air Force officers and airmen who exposed the highly illegal and highly suspect transportation of nuclear missles aboard a B-52 from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB are dropping like flies.

Six have died since the national exposure of the incident. How many more are going to pay the ultimate price for their sacrifice? Was this illegal transportation the genesis for something big, like another 9/11 or an aerial bombardment of Iran?

Of course, there will be those who think that airmen and officers "die all the time" and that this is just a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences. This may be nothing, but chances are this is a BIG something.

Here is one link for the story:
Minot AFB Clandestine Nukes 'Oddities'

I have a military background and understand enough about how the non-public side of the military operates to believe that none of what happened from the illegal access to the weapons (which require 24 signatures from storage release to actual loading) to the questionable 3 1/2 hours it took to make the 2 hour flight to the fact that only five out of six nukes made it to Barksdale. Barksdale AFB in Louisiana, for those who don't know, is the staging base for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Like I said, maybe it's nothing, but too many things are coming together to be mere happenstance.

Part 2 of my "I hope to God I am wrong" series.

For part 1: Is there going to be a Nuclear 9/11 Attack against the US by October 31st?



Comments

Not a problem...

When We the People demanded transparency in government, I don't think using the Internet to investigate and piece together what our government was doing was what was in mind. From what I've been able to piece together in my research--most of which I haven't yet posted here--it appears that martial law by Cheney (as the real power behind Bush) is the end goal of all of this. There is no way our economy can sustain our military adventures in the Middle East and something as simple as a two or three-day air campaign to destroy Iran's infrastructure and nuclear capability can push us over the precipice. Bush's Iraq adventure was a perfect testing ground for different weapons systems for the military-industrial complex, but it has almost outlived its usefulness to them, hence Iran and the threatened air invasion. I changed my initial Xombyte regarding this situation not only because of the timeframe, but also because I now believe that the B-52 may have been on the way to Iran "just in case". Though, I am still concerned about the missing missile, I just hope that your surmising that the weapon will show up somewhere it isn't in one of our urban population centers accompanied by a blinding white flash. There are a number of military exercises coming up this month and mostly next month that can be used as a pretext for a false flag operation, not unlike what our military was doing on 9/11. In addition, there are the massive derivatives on the S&P that expire on September 21st, which, if allowed to lapse unfulfilled, will cost someone some $700 million; if fulfilled, which would require Wall Street to lose about half its value, would make someone about $4.5 billion. This also is not unlike what happened with United Airlines and American Airlines stock being set up to take a fall and make someone (from the CIA no less) very rich. I still have some more digging to do around these seeming coincidences, but ultimately it's not in my hands what happens. I'm no martyr, just a thinking man's thinking man who likes to find the "connectedness" between events. What people must remember about the pejorative "conspiracy theorist" is even the most outlandish story is based in truth; it's up to the investigator to sift through the theories and pull the truth out. _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

I apologize for misinterpreting what was at issue. Now about

missing or vanishing service personnel. The vanishing for weapons-cause servicemen is likely an illusion. Accidents seem a little wild but motorcycle accidents are the top ranked non combat killer of Air Force personnel. That statistical notice could be indicative of something, but it doesn't have to be secret. I'd make sure it was leaked, but these kinds of weapons are nothing you can hide your equipment from. Dispersion and multiple copies is about as good as you can get. And one buster won't work except to show intent. I do NOT think the underground hardened facility could take a direct surface blast of the Submarine Launched ballistic missile 5 megaton variety from a boomer and survive. Yes it would be an inspiring mess. It could lead to III. Quickly. Of course, the cruise missile bunker buster needs to be "tested" on something, right, something military and hardened. So why not Iran? It is no good to have a variety of weapons if you can't pick a fight or encourage one so you can touch them with a new weapon. What is America, if not the military industrial government milking machine complex? If the goal is to counter the threat of nuclear weapons from Iran as entered into the Islamic Jihadic world or to stop Iran from meddling in the Iraq exercise, it may take several actions. Of course, I am familiar with the W-80 and the delivery capacity of the cruise missiles or their deployment. I apologize for misunderstanding what was your issue. Now, a good thorough world war would still not remove the CO2 but could curtail the coming century's increase. Over nuclear bunker busters, and even boomer weapons, I favor an engineered viral pandemic or good destructively engineered selectively formed bacteria for worldwide release. Or maybe an intelligent group of leaders. I do agree something is occurring with the cruise missiles and would suggest the non-secrecy, or leak of it has been intentional propaganda. That is all we need. A war so a State of Emergency can be called and Martial Law covering all US states and territories and people, so we can keep the Bush or his named brother as successor. . .something to get the new imperial family set up. Maybe terrorize American's and, yeah keep the vote to the Congress, suspend elections and get the Court to say the executive as unlimited power in war time... I'm sure the missing weapon will show up somewhere. Watch out or "They" will think you are a conspiracy theorist. nice story anyways jd.

That isn't quite the role of the AGM-129

The AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile with W-80 nuclear (not of the hydrogen bomb variety) warhead isn't designed to turn population centers into self-lighting, glass-bottomed parking lots. No, it is designed to deliver a nuclear payload into heavily defended, hardened targets, like bunkers, and the nuclear warhead is designed to penetrate deeply to strike bunkers buried below the reach of conventional munitions. AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile [ACM] As former Air Force officers and weapons handlers have stated, there is NO conventional use of the AGM-129, which means it is either carrying the W-80 nuclear warhead or, for training, a dummy warhead. The dummy warhead is clearly distinguishable from the W-80 by the way it is painted. Given the strict protocol necessary to remove nuclear munitions from storage bunkers and to assemble them onto the missile, including 24 separate signatures and tacit approval much higher than the local chain-of-command, this wasn't some honest mistake. What happened was a deliberate act. Was a Covert Attempt to Bomb Iran with Nuclear Weapons foiled by a Military Leak? Bush and his fellow chickenhawks have stated that Iran could be secured with two continuous days of bombing to destroy Iran's navy, air force, command and control, oil producing, and nuclear facilities and it would be--I am quoting here--"easy". Much of Iran's nuclear infrastructure is underground in bunkers. So, the AGM-129 is specifically designed for such an attack. So, no, using Trident ICBM missiles fired from our Navy's Ohio-class missile subs is not a valid substitute for the role these "bunker busting" missiles were meant to play. Trident I C-4 FBM / SLBM _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

We have "boomers". We do not need to remove one H-bomb

We have "boomers". Submerged, all over the planet, quietly. We do not need to remove one H-bomb from an old B-52 collection and "lose" it -- unless someone of the good ole boys in the current administration's neocon flakers group has figured out a way to really profit from selling an H-bomb nuke to terrorists. I don't buy it. Nuclear War, with H-bombs to turn much of the Middle East into an Alamogordo-white-sands greenish glass -- at least the places dear to heart -- would take at most, one boomer. Maybe smuggle the H-bomb into Iran for use at their facility? Nah. Atom bombs are one thing. Hydrogen bombs are a hundred times more destructive. I suspect if an H-bomb is missing, it has been sold. But it could have been "lost." The ones "lost" in accidents are scary enough. We have toned our bombs down to 'civilized' size: 5 megatons -- whereas the Russian boomers carry a lot of less accurately targetable 20 megaton ordnance. Only the nihilistic radicals of the religious sort (any of several opposing religions) would advocate their use. One thing certain. If used, we all failed. If used, there will be much green glass.

I agree about the two from July...

I'll have to investigate more about the death rates for that particular Wing at Minot AFB to see if those deaths are connected or if they were just another death related to a common mishap. The one who compiled the list hinted that they might be unrelated. Also remember that the nukes went missing on August 30th and, if this was a premeditated act by someone in our own government, the planning had to have taken place long in advance to circumvent the in-place safeguards (including bypassing the 24 signatures required and approval at the White House level), so something happening in July could still be within the time window. _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

Confused about the dates.

I agree, it would be highly suspicious for six folks involved with this incident to die within a week of the investigation. However, one of the death announcement articles listed in the source you linked to is dated in July,... two months before the incident.... Maybe I am not understanding the sequence of events.... or Angel

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