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HillaryCare: It's Baaack!

posted September 20, 2007 - 12:55pm
HillaryCare: It's Baaack!

This article is about presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her national health care plans, which would involve government being in charge of people's health care.

"Furthermore, Hillary will deliver a series of mandates to businesses, which will further exacerbate the problems we have now and drive private insurers out of the market.

"When that happens, the door will swing shut and the government will have complete control of your health care. Rationing will begin, as it has with all single-payer government run programs.

"We can make free market reforms that put consumers back in control of their health care, or we can go down the road of HillaryCare that will lead to rationing and government control."


Website: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=577...
Author: Merriam
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The United States Can't Take in the Whole World

Merriam - Sat, 2007-22-9 6:33 pm
While I agree with what you're saying about NAFTA, etc., which were obviously never meant to benefit the average person of the United States, Canada or Mexico, I disagree that the average illegal alien isn't causing trouble in the country because they are. How many Americans must be murdered by illegal aliens, people who aren't even supposed to be in the country in the first place, before the borders are shut down? How many Americans must be killed by drunk-driving illegal aliens? How many hospital emergency rooms must be shut down by illegal aliens? How many schools must be overwhelmed? How much welfare must be paid for by Americans for people not supposed to be in our country in the first place? A policeman in Arizona was just killed by an illegal alien. What about that policeman and his family? Don't they matter? Cities and towns across the United States are being destroyed by illegal immigration and NOBODY ever asked those American citizens if they wanted their towns and cities destroyed. While the ruling class in Mexico is corrupt and so is the ruling class here in the United States, it is not the responsibility of American citizens to take care of the world. Furthermore, we have limited natural resources in this country and unless we want to start fighting over water and other resources, we better stop the sheer numbers of people coming into this country. In fact, California is already experiencing water shortages. How is allowing millions of more illegals into California helping that situation?

Actually...

jdubhub - Fri, 2007-21-9 2:39 pm
Actually, the only drug I would legalize is marijuana. If we can get some of the meth and crack addicts switched over, maybe we can mellow out society. But, seriously, most of the drug trade in the US, at least those at the root of violent crime and gang violence, are based on crystal meth, crack cocaine (mostly, but powder is there too), and heroin. Marijuana is natural, while the others are man-made and, therefore, more harmful. If we had designated areas where people could do their thing, but still had such safeguards as workplace drug-testing, we could still keep drug addicts out of key jobs. I used to feel how you did about the illegal aliens. What changed it for me, or at least started the process, was studying the aftermath of NAFTA and GATT in the 90's. Imagine having not just your individual job, but your entire industry disappear overnight and everything you ever worked for taken away. You would be living in squalor not knowing where your next meal was coming from or when you would get it. Mexico has no social welfare programs on the scale of the US, so the only hope is coming here. I'm not saying that the ones coming here not to work or that come here to commit crime are justified, but there are many that come here because their only alternative is to stay at home and starve to death. What our government should be doing is exerting pressure on the moneyed class of Mexico to pay an income tax to pay for an infrastructure for improving life for all Mexicans, which would in turn give them a reason to stay in Mexico. Instead, our government is continuing to enable the neglect Mexico shows for its citizens and doesn't care about social reform there. The system is effed up, but demonizing the individual Mexican poor peson while the Mexican upper class does nothing but take advantage of our lax immigration enforcement is somewhat misdirected IMHO. The "us against them" shouldn't be average American citizens vs. average Mexican citizens. It should be average citizens from both countries vs. power elites from both countries. Only when the divide-and-conquer tactics of our government become transparent, and only then, will social reform be able to take place. Until then, things will only get worse for us. _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

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Don't Want the Equivalent of IRS or DMV in Charge of Health Care

Merriam - Fri, 2007-21-9 2:02 pm
I know one thing-I definitely don't want the equivalent of the IRS or the Department of Motor Vehicles in charge of my health care. :) Having the government in charge of health care will be a disaster. It's interesting, though, that a number of Americans support socialized medicine despite its failure in one European country after another. I agree with the rest of your remarks except for two. Regarding illegal aliens, they know they're breaking our laws; they just don't care. Also, many of them are not that poor and they already have jobs in Mexico and other countries. They simply make more money here because they get it tax free and also get a lot of other social services free as well, including free health care. This doesn't mean I excuse greedy corporations who would be delighted to pay a worker .25c an hour if they could or globalists who are trying to destroy our sovereignty through illegal immigration and the erasing of our borders but illegal aliens themselves are not innocent either. Regarding the war on drugs, I am still thinking over the issue of marijuana for medical use. If it can help suffering people and doesn't make things worse, then I find it hard to oppose it. Otherwise, though, I believe that all legalizing drugs will do is create a black market anyway. After all, is the U.S. government really going to allow stores to sell heroin or LSD? There will instead be a black market for those. Also, if a store sells a particular drug for $100.00, what's to stop people from selling the same drug for $80.00, thus again creating a black market. In addition, countries in Europe who have legalized drugs have had serious problems with drug addicts taking over entire parks and causing lots of other problems.

Holy Water and Garlic anyone?

jdubhub - Thu, 2007-20-9 3:07 pm
Someone needs to drive a wooden stake through its heart. Maybe that will kill it. The so-called Hillarycare is a terrible program for the Middle Class, who will bear the financial burden to support it, even if it does address a major problem in this country of people without any form of healthcare. During Bill Clinton's first term, Hillary (of the infamous "WE are the President" claim) pushed this program to benefit the HMO industry and, by extension, Big Pharma. The middle class would end up with a net tax rate of over 50% of gross income; from all indications, nothing has changed. The process of healthcare for all of our citizens shouldn't be so difficult, if the following were to happen:
  • End the War in Iraq and Afghanistan and any other wars of imperial conquest, bring our military home, and scale down military spending to defensive terms only. We cannot sustain having up to a third of our GDP spent on the military.
  • End predatory international treaties and alliances, such as NAFTA and GATT already in existence, and the North American Union now in the works. While these treaties are good for corporations and, by extension, for the greedy politicians who lick their hands, they are terrible for the citizens of Mexico, many of whom would be happy to stay in Mexico instead of coming to the US to find work. Illegal immigration is not the fault of the working poor of Mexico, who are really not that much different than you or me, but that of the predatory capiatalists and greedy politicians who are raping the economies and natural resources of our two countries.
  • End the FDA's monopoly on what is considered to be a healthy lifestyle and focus more on prevention than having to pop a pill for every conceived ill. This includes compulsory vaccinations (containing mercury) for our children, leading to Down Syndrome, and the over-prescribing of behavior-modifying drugs for ADD and ADHD, most of which have unknown long-term effects. Allow consumers to purchase cheaper alternatives to expensive prescription medications from Canada, Mexico, and overseas instead of making the free market illegal.
  • Require full disclosure by all fast-food chains of the inherent health risks of eating their garbage, including truth in advertising.
  • End the decades-long phony War on Drugs. End the stigma attached to its use and legalize marijuana, which has medical benefits and has been around for longer than prescription drugs but cannot be recreated by Big Pharma in a lab. The simple legalization of this natural drug will reduce our prison populations and reduce the need for people to seek expensive prescription drugs with attendant side effects, necessitating more prescription drugs in a neverending cycle of chemical dependency.
  • Lower the limit for campaign donations by corporate entities and other special interest groups to the point where contributions from private citizens become necessary to the reelection campaigns of Congresspeople and other public officials. This will eliminate a glaring conflict-of-interest, where the voice of We the People is drowned out by corporate greed and hubris.
  • Set term limits of two 6-year terms for Senators and 5 2-year terms for Representatives to put an end to career politicians and de facto royal succession.
  • Abolish the Federal Reserve system, which would take away control of our country's finances and place them back in control of Congress, which is a requirement under the Constitution. This would also force Congress to only spend what it brings in in revenues, since the option to overspend and have the Fed print more money to make up the difference would no longer be there. Since the National Debt is really the debt our government owes in interest to the private banks making up the Federal Reserve, abolishing the Federal Reserve has the added benefit of erasing the National Debt.
I have many more ideas, but this would be a good start to find the funding necessary to provide health care for everyone. But, I would not trust Hillary Clinton or any other Washington/corporate insider to do the right thing to take care of us. _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

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