Mrbronco, Jim, pubby, If you get reads, good. This is the way it used to be, but a lot of things have changed here at xomba for the coin. Jim -- Water does expand as ice -- and -- water does expand slightly as a liquid as it warms. There is lots of physics on this stuff. About half of the global sea level rise that will occur in the next 60 plus years is a thermal volume expansion. The majority of the sea level rise will be displacement of air, filling the bath tub, by adding much icemelt. Maximum density occurs as a liquid at about 34 degrees. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(molecule) = = Image: Wikipedia, Cigarettes have become very expensive in places that want to reduce the amount of smoking in public; pictured is the cost of a carton of 200 cigarettes in New Jersey. Ethical research or statistical research. Insurance? I linked to and scanned Pubs "old articles", most, I think about ten years old or slightly older. Pub really had to be selective, on what he decided to post as reference, because current work does not support the ideas he is positing, or posting. Image: Wikipedia, from United States Department of Health and Human Services =============== But I want to point out, if you read only the articles he linked you might want to drink fluid trickled through the ashtrays and butt collection from a smoking pool-playing bar. And if it was pasteurized, heck, it might be good for you. You could improve the "taste" by squeezing the residue from the filters into the mix -- or you might want to only use use the portion of the cigarette above the filter, one that someone has already smoked! Skoal Brother! http://www.quittobacco.com/facts/effects.htm This will encourage the use of smokeless tobacco, much like the recipe I am describing! ================= Image: Wikipedia, "smoke by a window in a pub. ((((Imagine. And some writer's have an imagination,(do you?)and can use imagination to frame a picture. . . Image: Wikipedia -- An extremely carcinogenic (cancer-causing) metabolite of benzopyrene, a polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbon, produced by burning tobacco. Okay. Imagine, to prepare your elixir, you half-smoke or three-quarter smoke your favorite brand -- say unfiltered Camels! The ones you would walk a mile for. You extinguish the cigarette and peel the paper, and remove the ash portion. When you have accumulated so the residue from several packs of smokes toss the stuff in a blender, say with a touch 1/2 cup of warmed butter or margarine. Puree. You have at least two options with the residue. One is to fold into your chocolate brownie recipe as though it were hemp residue for a delightful ingestion; and the other is to heat and press the butter or margarine out of the blend. You can make an aluminum foil container to reconstruct a cube of spreadable butter/margarine and use it on your toast; The residue mass, which still has plenty of butter in it can be burned, like incense in your residence and enjoyed again like it was in the puffing stage of the Camel.)))) Generally, however, I think Pub did a good job in citing this old stuff. It ixs just that I guess he is in denier training. It is too pointed to be skepticism. Most of those have now been dead-ended, and sunk by the progress of medical research. It helps to realize, that because of ethical concerns, human medicine and even some areas of medical research are statistical exercises, not chemical/carcinogenic direct hands-on research. It is great that rats and mice are so much like us, or we like them. (If your wife tells you you are a "Rat" that is one thing but if she calls you a "mouse", she could be really meaning . . .well, it is clear if she calls you an A-Ho. . .) Image: Wikipedia, H&E (haematoxylin and eosin) stained lung tissue sample from an end-stage emphysema patient. RBCs are red, nuclei are blue-purple, other cellular and extracellular material is pink, and air spaces are white. After the dinosaurs, likely the primate's ancestors, existed on African, Indian, and South American plates, and evolved similarly from the tiny mammals present during the age of the dinos. But whatever you believe, we and the rest of the mammals have a lot of characteristics in common so that "medical research" using mice/rats and primates in leiu of human subjects continues -- and yields results! A lot of mice and rats, and monkeys have been forcibly addicted to tobacco -- and rendered (that means "killed and processed" at particular points in the process. I am not now particularly fond of our behavior in that regard. Image: Wikipedia, Gross appearance of the cut surface of a pneumonectomy specimen containing a lung cancer, here a Squamous cell carcinoma (the whitish tumor near the bronchi). I especially liked Sturman's English language version of his Dutch site. He is a character! Most of the time he pushes into the ad infinitum extreme in spite of his admiration of Occam's Razor. I used to smoke Flying Dutchman pipe tobacco along with Ambrosia, both of which had exceptional "taste" in a meerschaum. Then, one day, they tasted bad, I do not know why. I guess I reached the end of them. Soon none of the tobaccos tasted good. I smoked cigarettes. They tasted good, but not so good. Because it was pure addiction. My fingers stained from the smoke, and I have workingman's hands, tough from all the work my part of science entailed. The final time I decided the evidence was enough for me to quit. It took several years, patch, gum, finally the patch and a lot of will power. I think you, Pub, and my friend mrbronco should both consider doubling or trebling your smoking. Show a little moxie, "really" inhale. Image: Wikipedia,Cross section of a human lung. The white area in the upper lobe is cancer; the black areas indicate the patient was a smoker. --Wikipedia. And do some pratical research! Submit your bodies to "science," And heck, pub, you don't have to smoke to sell them to kids. Tell them how grown-up and mature they look. They are immortal when they start smoking. You should ask the GrantDoctor -- though if you read this it makes your wonder. http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_development/previous_issues/articles/3710/smoke_but_no_fire/(parent)/13199 http://dccps.nci.nih.gov/tcrb/TRIP/html/appendix.html From which is copied," The tobacco research portfolio analysis revealed support for a broad spectrum of tobacco-related research. Proportional to tobacco's cancer burden, however, tobacco research reflects a disproportionately small portion of the NCI budget. While tobacco use accounts for almost 30 percent of cancer deaths, the total annual budget for tobacco-related research represents only 3 percent of the NCI budget." (Scientific ethics is at work here.) Image: Wikipedia, Source NIH, This is probably some of your propaganda, huh? To me the interesting part is the apparent work by the tobacco companies between 1920 and 1935 with cigarettes to make them more addictive, and it really helps to have them in your c-rations or k-rations in the military. With match. Concerns about teens. . . Dealing to kids! A lot of money here. This is the place to really reel them in. And is "so easy!" http://www.nida.nih.gov/NIDA_Notes/NNVol15N5/tearoff.html This one ought to clarify the stance. http://www.nih.gov/about/researchresultsforthepublic/tobaccoresearch.pdf Image: Wikipedia --Chest x-ray showing a cancerous tumor in the left lung When they do an x-ray, try to get a look at them -- they should show them to you. But there you go! -------------------- If you smoke you should buy your own healthcare. I don't want there to be a social cost for your smoking. I do not want to pay for your health/tobacco related issues or well-being. I do think the tobacco industry should be closed. I think its assets need to be devoted to the health care of its former customer group. Who knows what can happen. Imagine. What if they devalued your home and neighborhood by 1/5 and said. "We can't reduce your payments. You are going to have to pay for the devaluation." Then you go in the hospital. Then it just looks like a little "smoky area." Maybe you live a while if you could sell your place to pay for the care? At 80% or less. I think it would be much better for the species to have full control over this situation. I can't really think of a good use for tobacco. If I could go after the last plant, I guess we could store it safely in some deep cavern on the moon in case we felt some future need to return it to earth for some good thing. . .just can't really imagine what that might be. Maybe it could compete with hemp for rope or something. . .? http://www.nih.gov/about/researchresultsforthepublic/tobaccoresearch.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=hstat2.chapter.7644 mrbonco, I assume you are a football fan? A Bronco fan? This year???? Go Broncos. The hemp brownies are mind-altering. Don't know if the tobacco brownies would even be palatable. But I'm way past this stuff. Pub. How is your process of educating the **** masses going? Be careful so you can get older. We could cite statistics on that, but the actuaries do it for a living. Thanks for your come back. I can't recommend smoking even after smoking on and off for thirty-some years. From what I write, you can see what effect it has had on me. Devastating! I'd like to say something ironic here for poor Pub. But he'd misunderstand it for sure.

It is generally understood in science that water expands when frozen and contracts when heated. If global warming is indeed causing the melting of the polar ice caps, then that means the melted water should be of less volume than the previously frozen ice, which means that the ocean levels shouldn't be rising. If the levels are rising, then there has to be another reason. DO YOU HAVE THE WRITE STUFF?

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