Obama Becomes Democratic Nominee

What a great article!

What messed Hillary up was her underhanded tactics and her lies and misconceptions. She still is lying and misleading the voters. In my opinion, she's no better than Bush or McCain. Now she's trying to get the votes from Michigan and Florida, which she didn't win fair and square. Only because she's not winning.

Obama for president!

She has nothing else! No other reason for existing!

She claims she wants a 'righteous man' in the White House, but that's obviously something her speech-writer told her to say---doesn't know anything about 'righteous men' ... look at the guy she married! :-P
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Hilary's still fighting even though it looks like she has a sahara snowball's chance to win the Demoncratic nod.

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Regrettably, I think Hillary is the only way we can beat McCain. I know this topic has been beaten to death but it bears repeating.

The biggest issue I see is 'the War,' and you know both Clinton and McCain are for the war (or wishing to see it through to the destruction of 'them terr`ist evil-doers').

Obama's the only one on the table that claims he'll 'put his foot down' on an ending-date.

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The biggest issue will be the war. Not the war in Iraq. That war we are winning. There is talk of more troops coming home than recomended and even before expected. You don't put down your foot on a deadline to stop a war you IDIOT. And you do not have the need to know even when we will leave. So in your emotional mind of stirred crap, you are killing our American soldiers and refuse to understand this simple fact. Let him who has ears hear. The war I am talking about is the war here the democrats have going on against the American economy. There is a strategy going on right now that is to demoralize the American public into thinking all is bad, that they are not getting everything that is owed to them, I am being lied to, I'm going to get drafted on and on and on. I call it general democrats cockroach strategy. Cockroaches will canibalize themselves to get strong.
In the battle state of Colorado we have this strategy going on with our liberal city counsel members in the form of new taxes these last 3 years that are designed to target the middle class small business owners. One new rain tax takes litterally thousands of dollars out of small business owners yearly income. This hurts our economy and it is designed to show that our small businesses are making less than they were 2 and 3 years ago. SEE Oh gee our economy is bad. general democrat made sure it is. Oh yea next our utility bill is going to increas by one hundred and twentysix percent because our citizens conserved like they were supposed to, too much water. Now my city in Colorado are going to hit the senior citizens with a fixed income. They can't afford this. So we can really scream, the economy the economy. You democrats are cockroaches. See the comparison. You have to lose to win. You have no idea what you are getting into mr. smarty pants Jesus mocking obama lover. There will be more on this subject and more subjects like this that will come out. Another thing is if my pastor was attacked. I could protect my pastor. Because I can explain when my pastor says God d---- America I understand that perfect God cannot fellowship with unrightiousness. So goes the pivot so goes the nation. This democrat idea of what American virtue is. Is a lack of Virtue. It is not a moral question it is character question.

while i don't necessarily agree with the general tone of what you are saying i do agree with your idea that democrats will find a way to create a losing economy in order to win. in 2005 we had a growing national economy. in 2006 democrats became the majority in the white house. all that they have accomplished is a lot of wasted time in general, pushing bills that were (in their own words)nothing more than press opps and spending way to much time prosecuting baseballs players for using steriods when it was legal to do so.

the only inevitable thing in our economy right now is the housing market. when lenders opened their doors to sub-prime borrows (something put into effect under the last clinton idiot) they set themselves up for this. the government should not be involved in a bailout of the housing market. unscrupulous lenders should not be reimbursed for being greedy (sounds like a democratic stance but really is a republican one).

as for clinton acting like a republican...oh give me a break. clinton leans towards whatever will get her into office. none of the candidates this year are impressive but only one is dangerous and that is clinton.

unfortunately the odds are in favor of the country electing a democrat this time around. what that means is higher taxes, more socialized programs and more government control of private business. the war will go on. democrats will find a way to continue to blame our presence their on republicans.

My tone is to fight fire with fire. Principal being you burn up all the fuel that is around so there is no more to burn up. I am sure the tax collectors did not like the tone of Jesus when He threw them out of His Fathers Temple.
I appreciate your maturity though. Thank you.

An IDIOT is one who starts a whole 'war' over some independent radical group.

And speaking of idiocy, I never said anything about stopping the war ... you're right, I don't; I'M NOT THE U.S. PRESIDENT!

And if you think I'm mocking Jesus somehow, you have some reading to do.

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Now you are a liar. Your quote.
The biggest issue I see is 'the War,' and you know both Clinton and McCain are for the war (or wishing to see it through to the destruction of 'them terr`ist evil-doers').

Obama's the only one on the table that claims he'll 'put his foot down' on an ending-date.

Or this is not saying stop the war as you understand the definition of stop the war to be. democrats need a mouth on both sides of there cheeks. Because you talk out of both sides of your face. This is not an attack on you. It is the character of this liberal beast. Americans need a better reason to vote than to just rebell and stomp their feet.

Thank you, eggsovresy.

I suppose this could be an example of the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'-truth: if we immediately declare 'peace' and raise the white flag, we're doomed to 'being called "chicken";' if we keep on stormin` the caves, we're doomed to 'being called "warmongers".'

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Good point mythman. Sounds like positions of weakness to me. Say no to war from a position of weakness. And the slander of a party from a position of weakness meant to demean and edify one's self.

As for me. I will drink the blood of my enemies out of their own skull. The profession of a Soldier is an honorable one.

I wish I could give you another plus one for that excellent reply!

Repubs are quite fired up because they know they are going to lose. They don't like McCain. Most of them don't like Bush.

This is a lie. We love our President Bush and we are very excited about the fact we will get to vote for McCain. He is a man with substance. Not a week sister or influenced by silly women. He can work with his oppenents because he understands that he can have a relaxed mental attitude with them because it is not based on who and what they are. Jesus understands what man is not capable of doing and knows WHAT we are capable of doing.

Their party has split a new wing called libertarians.
Ron Paul is waving that flag.

Thier is always crusader arrogance. Your side has Ralph Nader to contend with again this election. Do not get too emotional about this one week sister man.

People resort to name calling because they lack the intellect to hold a compelling argument. I'm not going to respond to those kind of attacks.

We have a thing called a dictionary. We have this because we have meanings for each of our words used in our vocabulary. I sugest you buy one and use it and quit using subjectivity rather objectivity to fuel your emotional arguments that probably don't have anything to do with you in the first place. Lose the thin skin and quit being afraid to look in a mirror.

This isn't about Jesus. Jesus didn't believe in wars.
Jesus didn't even believe in capitalism.

Like I said stop the emotion used as knowledge. Did you ever here about David and goliath. The day David killed him. David said today the Lord has delivered you into my hands and David killed him. The word of God is what this Capitalist nation was built upon. We have our own Volition.

Some of this is about skin color. The US still remains vehemently racist. However, democrats suffer from this as well. Obama will help further tear down this wall.

I suggest you read two books. A call to duty and the new history book being release in Oregon about Oregons policies of the black man. And than go yell at your liberal state.

The republican campaign will be one of fear and hate. They will run "soft money ads" accusing Obama of being Muslim or not being patriotic enough. I predict it to be the ugliest campaign since Lincoln.

This campaign will be ran with integrity and virtue and that will show the character of one party and the LACK of character in the other.

These are the tactics they use. Repubs feed off ignorance. They use it to their advantage. Let's not forget Swift Boats or the attack on Gays. Conservatives have a brilliant strategy of keeping low public education standards and therefore using scare tactics to control the poor.

You are right Republicans are going to feed off of your ignorance. And show your emotion. Swift boat. You have to leave a hot zone to have to come back into it under fire. Kerry should have stayed there in the first place. The gays are attacking the family structure. Marriage is for procreation between a man and a woman. In the schools I have to say parent or gaurdian. I can't say mommy and daddy. But I can teach the kids Sussie has two daddys or two mommies. FAlSE. Sussie has a mommy and a daddy even if one was concieved in a test tube, it still takes a mommy and a daddy. Sussie does not have two mommies or two daddies. Sussie has a mommy with a homosexual mate or a daddy with a homosexual mate. And this is an abomination to nature. It is not the individual being judged by a Christian who votes. It is the actions that are being judge. It is a character question not a morral question Idiot. Look that word up before you get emotional and start saying name caller. And who is really hiding the knowledge behind this issue. As far as educating the poor. Go to any big city and look at the democrat progams that are designed to keep those people oppressed. Thanks for the welfare. Thanks for blocking drug tests to people where help is need the most. I am just scratching the surface.

Here's the good news. Overall, they are losing this battle. The world is progressing. Sure, we have set backs, but overall we move forward. The old generation dies and the new one is a little more progressive than the last.

Overall this battle has just begun. You have lost already and don't even know it. I do not begrudge you of what you have week sister man and silly woman at this moment. It is all you have. So enjoy.

Why do you think Generation X leans more toward being Libertarians? Think about it.

Because the American people are wanting to get back to the original foundation of our Constitution. That would really hurt the dems. Because welfare, social security, mass public transit, farm aid, socialized medicine....would all be discontinued. You might want to scratch this emotional point you tried to make. Because it would wipe your party out tottally as we know it.

So, from now on I will not respond to personal attacks. Matter a fact I don't plan to argue with anyone. I won't even read it. I'm not here to argue and get all hot under the collar.

Yea right take your toys and go home because they're not playing right. Because I am better than you and I don't argue.... emotional statements from a spoiled chilld in an adult body

I must admit that I laughed when I read this. Somehow I doubt that either campaign will be run with integrity or virtue. Those words have lost their meaning because of the advent of modern politics.

"This campaign will be ran with integrity and virtue and that will show the character of one party and the LACK of character in the other. "

It's ironic that the person who wrote this accuses others of using "emotion." To claim that one's own party is full of integrity and virtue and the other party is immoral, etc. is the height of emotional arguing.

Idlewild.
I am going to say it again. It isn't a moral question. It is a Virtue question. No emotion just that it is a Virtue question. Which means Character. This is what will win this election. And what one side is trying to call american virtue. Is a lack of Virtue. It is a character question. No emotion, just Virtue. Which means Character. The character of the non believer is aligned with the democrat party right now. This is an ugly beast. This is what our enemies are at war with, the character of our Nation. It is ironic that the democrat's virtue at this time is the same character that our enemies are sworn to kill. I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus. I can say. Forgive them father for they know not what they are doing. And move on. And right now our enemies do not know that side of America's Character. But, they will.

When I wrote about Virtue and Integrity I did not expect a comment with any substance back. I expected comments with a lack of thought, and statements meant to cause a reaction. Instead of teach.

Your quote:
Somehow I doubt that either campaign will be run with integrity or virtue. Those words have lost their meaning because of the advent of modern politics.

Is the reason I also wrote. It is not a morale question. It is a character question.

Longevity of life for the women in a nation is a blessing from God. Principal being...The older woman teach the young girls.

What is your character? What are you teaching the young girls?

Nothing about you here but I am not impressed with this character of people that are obamma supporters. This ugly beast has no substance. Only emotional arguments thrown as darts meaning only to edify self. And cause reactions. Read what you wrote.

Listen please don't teach our young girls in our Nation this kind of junk. Teach them to expect Virtue and Integrity, and than DEMAND IT! I will teach the young men the same.

Yes maam I have to vote for a man with SUBSTANCE and obamma isn't it.

Eggsovresy, you miss my point entirely. Do not say that the Republican campaign will be run with integrity and virtue when it won't. I can tell you now that they are going to take low blows at Obama just to score political points. Don't even bother denying this because you know it's true. And yes, Obama's campaign will do this too.

Why should they be deluded into thinking that Virtue and Integrity are there when they aren't? This kind of submissive behaviour can be very dangerous. They should DEMAND virtue and integrity from politicians, not automatically assume that it is there. Being critical and realistic is of the utmost importance.

This is a subjective and emotional response in itself and adds nothing to the debate. Stick to the facts.

Why do you need to bring religion into this? This is not some apocalyptic battle between the forces of Good and Evil as you seem to want us to believe. This is the kind of ideology that Dictators and Tyrants preach.

....some people on here refuse to avoid the religion factor. It's the main reason wars have been fought throughout history and it seems to be a main point of disagreement here too. They use God as a weapon here. Makes me wonder how "Christian" they really are.

What the Amazing Grace is (here-and-now) is 'that the things we can use are ours' (or 'that the things which are ours are things we can use,' only different in temporal terms).

'The knowledge that people react to things more-fully if you associate them with God' is one of the things people use. Use it well? Hopefully. Use it badly? I pray not, but **it happens.

All we can do is continue to use it well and prosper the ones who follow us.

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I'm sure you know Chaos Theory's precept, "People are uncaring self-servers," very well. But you're not going to change that by being even-more an uncaring self-server.

A parable: The people in the apartment above mine (a badly-floored complex) walk around as if they are on the ground floor. This annoys the hell out of me; occasionally (rage makes us stupid) I attempt to solve the problem by pounding on the wall. It doesn't work.

Did you hear that, or did you just listen? ... or the other way around, I forget.

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To be totally honest, I have no idea what you are trying to tell me... but...

All that I am saying is don't EXPECT that politicians will have integrity or virtue. I did not say that doing so was Wussing Out, just delusional. Teaching the "younger generation" to expect integrity and virtue when those qualities aren't there just perpetuates the cycle of ignorance and is a good example of stereotypical and authoritarian thinking. Instead, we should teach them to be open-minded and critical individuals, capable of thinking their own thoughts and not just agreeing with everyone else.

Do you call someone doing that an "uncaring self-server"? I think teaching them to blindly follow is more characteristic of an "uncaring self-server".

And yeah... it's the other way around.

Example: You 'expect' me to respond to you (I can tell because you used one of my "magic words," just as I used one of yours :-D ).

You didn't know I would--just as I don't know you will--so it's okay if there's no response; but we also know there might be a response.

I think that's what ovresy is saying when `e says 'expect and DEMAND': know that the winner might be virtuous as surely as you know that you might be able to see a sunrise within 24 hours.

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Let's return to the issue at hand, since it's easy to find poor comparisons and alternative meanings to explain your way.

eggsoversy said that the Republican campaign will be run with integerity and virtue. I disagree with this since, like any other political campaign, it will involve taking low blows at the opposition (Obama) in order to score cheap political pointsand try to win the election. This means that the Republican campaign will not be run with either integrity or virtue.

eggsoversy also said that the younger generation should be taught to expect integrity and virtue and then demand this from politicians, before launching into an emotional rant. I never disagreed with this, although some people seem to have misinterpreted my words completely. I merely said that it wasn't there in modern politics, so people shouldn't be deluded into thinking that it is. The older generation should teach the younger generation to be realistic about the situation: while ideally they want politicians with integrity and virtue, they must also be able to realise when politicians lack these characteristics.

eggsoversy then unfairly asked What is your character? What are you teaching the young girls? Not exactly like I'm that old but I believe that young girls (and boys) should be taught to question rather than just accept, like I've been saying from the beginning. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that.

To conclude, "expect" may be a poorly chosen word. "Hope", "want" or "desire" would be much less ambiguous. If you expect something, it means there is a pretty good chance of it happening (like the sun rising), whereas if you hope for something, it is a lot less likely (like a politician with integrity and virtue).

I don't want to see non-virtue etc. So I'm not looking for it. If it's out there, I'll know and I'll avoid it/not vote for it, but it shouldn't be in one's nature to "try" to find it! (Because you're sure to scrape up some 'dirt' if you're searching for it!)

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Hey MythMan you are a smart idividual. Your applying of a very basic problem solving device is very commendable.
You have the ability to teach sir.

It is good to see a problem solving device being put into action.

I honestly know that what was said here today by you was not because of anything I wrote. Your knowlege here is because of who and what you are.

Jesus saved us by Who and What He is. Has nothing to do with you or me or anything we did.

Non spiritual can not understand spiritual. The problem solving device of impersonal love is what would cause peace on earth. Simply because a Christian understands. That what someone esle does is not going to cause my happiness or not.

Our enemies call us weak for this. The unbeliever in Jesus calls it tollerance. And than demands it. Christians call it a problem solving device called Impersonal Love. Now we are truly getting into Virtue. God's Virtue demanded justice.

Impersonal love is how Jesus looks at us. He understands what we are capable of doing and what we are capable of not doing.

Sir If you wanted to discuss the ins and outs of a candidate of your choice. I would listen. Because I understand your character.

The other day, I rehd a passage in 1st- or 2nd Samuel in which David had some very timely chances to kill King Saul (who was trying to kill David).

Everytime, David's conscience pulled him back because "King Saul was God's anointed"---because any sin either of them had conceived would be judged. (It turned out true. Saul died of sickness--I think--and David became one of the greatest kings of Israel!)

Terrorists are bad for us, yes; but I don't blame any country's leaders---they're just doing what they do. So--while 'policing the world' might be necessary to protect America--it shouldn't justify "declaring war."

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It seems a literally democratic ideal: Run your own country.

Obviously we can't actually do that, so the next best thing would be to vote for the one who's made the choices you would make, who's ended up where you would like to be in life; then it's almost as if the president is truly your 'leader'---going ahead of you to go where you would send yourself!

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Generation X (especially if I, a 26-year-old, am still part of it) is a generation that wishes to be free of the shackles of tradition.

Indeed, some tradition is useful (therein lies the spirit of capitalism), but we want to follow the traditions not because we are following 'tradition,' but because we are following the wiser path!

A highly-blesséd student of steel-captain Andrew Carnegie affirms that–while I agree with you that Jesus didn't believe in "Capitalism"–Christianity is built on the righteous precept of Capitalism: "Do unto others as you would unto yourself."

Wealthy people today–though the nature of wealth makes its holders big-headed–become wealthy by delivering on that moral.

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Idlewild it is refreshing to hear an argument actually trying to communicate with alot of thought behind it. I apreciate it. The fact that we are two different characters with totally different VIRTUES can cause some great discussion and maybe even some break thru's. Did you ever think in your wildest dreams we could change our Nation on a website called xomba? I have. I probably will be looking at your zombytes. In fact I probably even look forward to it.

Your comment on my comments that I make this xombyte more popular the more I post is what I am counting on. Not only has my personal points gone up 16 points in two days here on xomba, I am having the success of getting alot of people to think about the issue of this xombyte. obama and the nomination

This is a difference in our characters here. Which means our Virtues. I WANT people to see the lack of character in the support that follows obama. I bring initiatives to Nations States ballots for a living. I see democrats all over the U.S. trying to block any issue that they do not believe in. And yes even try to keep issues hidden from the electorate completely. So they do not see it or know it even exists to vote on. Like obama's 85 billion dollar world poverty tax he is trying to push thru our Congress and Senate right now. Did you know that tom daschel is a major player managing his campain. That is a sneaky character with no virtue. That is not a MORAL question. It is a VIRTUE question.

Yes I know it bothers you to hear the word of God becuase it is alive and powerful, like a double edged sword piercing even to the marrow. So I expect it. We could talk about the budhist religion and you would'nt mind it at all.

I wasn't talking about our enemies. I was talking about the gays, lesbians, tranvestites that don't know what they are, adulterers, drug attics, girls gone wild, sex in the city, kieth oberman, nancy pelosi, myrtha, kerry, kennedy, edwards, obama, queer guy for the straight guy etc... You know America. Right democrat. Don't you know that our enemies because of their RELIGION has to kill everyone inline with these characters and virtues. These virtues and people who support these characters are what our enemies consider to be the west. THANKS

You see the great whore everyone lately has been up in arms about to be explained is simply religion. The beast rides the great whore before it devours her. And than says do it my way. If you want more on that issue. Ask me Idlewild, otherwise out of curtesy I will leave that for later. But it has to do with obama.

To be blunt. The differences between us and our enemies is. They're God has'nt forgiven them what they do on earth. Mine made a plan so He can and has. If you want more on that later let me know.

Again thanks again Idlewild

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Great! Can you tell me what obama stands for? And what policies he aligns himself with?

Can you tell me what our enemies stand for? And what policies they align themselves up with?

In other words why do they fight? And why do you think an individual is going to be able to control it. When he aligns himself with everything they are sworn to kill?

Why do you act like this issue is not there? When you bury your head in the sand leaving our butt in the air.

Mr rebelrouser you better start thinking about religion because just saying this issue does'nt exist is not reality. Either is the strategy of the thin skinned liberal who says I won't talk about it and it won't be an issue. He with eyes let him see.

What our enemies are fighting against is the INFIDEL. Thats the west. It means unbelievers.

God has nothing to do with war. Warmongers get their rocks off, He doesn't mind; Peace-promoting Flower-Children get their rocks off, He doesn't mind.

They do it in one- or the other-of His names; big deal.

Religion only comes into play in war as the powerful use it to inspire the rages necessary to send sheep to the slaughterhouse.

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I have to agree with Irving. All that I'm hearing here is religious rambling and no concrete debate. If you're going to respond say something constructive.

eggsoversy... who are these "enemies" you keep talking about? "Terrorists"? Homosexuals? Everyone who does not agree with your narrow-minded views? They are all entitled to their views and like it or not, many of them live in your country and pay taxes too. It's hard to have a proper debate when people aren't clear and specific about what they are saying.

I know you can't understand. Non spiritual can not understand spiritual. I could give you a whole lot of the same but I will cut you some slack. In answer to your question who is our enemies? al queda, hamas, al aksbar brigrade...and the like. These are muslim groups who are sworn to wipe out the west and Isreal.

They have made us their enemies. Just because we don't kill our homosexuals, adulters, fornicaters, dope smokers, etc...on and on. It makes me tired. We are the west.

And it is a religion war with them. My God is better than your God type of thing. They hate democracy. Democracy means choice. And they are deathly afraid of any choice.

Tell you something I was over there when Hamas blew up our embassy. Almost 30 years ago. This has been going on for ever. Do you remember when Iran took our hostages when jimmy carter was president? I was in the military than. Iran is trying to come back now.

jimmy carter trully made the United States a laughing stock in the international community. During that time. And they are always looking for that same weekness. If you notice we have had no attack on our land in a long time.

Right now we have respect in the middle east although the democrat will deny it. It is because dems don't know any better, I reckon. Where as back than and untill Reagan got into office America had no respect because of the weakness jimmy carter showed.

You see taranitely those people are all about respect and working their way into heaven. This is very serious to them. When they take their revenge even if it is a hundred years later. They say I took my revenge and when I did I took it swift and it was sweet. This is the culture they live by.

Their are twelve tribes over there and they all have the same father Abraham. Even the Jewish. They won't fight around his gravesite. That is that big gold dome in Israel. I am sure you have seen it on pictures if you have'nt been there. But they all believe that it is their land. And it is a whole lot bigger than just little Israel. And they fight over it the sunni against the shiite. The Iraqi Kurds fight Turkey. Iran and Iraq are mortal enemies. Lebanon and Beirut on and on.

Taranitely I am not being a bigot or judgemental or anything just shooting straight.

If you showed up on a picture in Iraq, Iran, Suadi,etc... like the one on your page here and had the same page name of taranitely. Very bluntly you would simply be stoned to death. The woman would see to it. A young woman will be stoned to death for sitting in a car with another man who is not her husband or family. I did not say can be. I said WILL be stoned. This is their culture
So again what are you teaching the young girls?

I appreciate the straight-talk eggsoversy. I know and agree with a lot of what you are saying. Essentially it boils down to the following: you are questioning whether Obama and the Democrats will be able to protect us from the military threat these people pose? Seeing as I'm not American and don't follow your politics in that much detail, I'm not really in a position to argue this with you. You clearly believe he won't.

Muslim extremist groups =p

I guess this is true, but they have other reasons as well. For example, they hate that America supports Israel and denies Palastine? We also degrade their way of life, eg. by questioning their wearing of the head scarf and saying that it is against the women's rights. Both sides are at fault here.

Iran is a sovereign state and has the right to acquire nuclear arms just like any other state too, whether we like it or not. We need to shift into a different gear and find a new approach. We are making them resentful.

When in Rome...

In a recent case which you are probably refering too, the woman and man both only received lashes. This is against their sharia law and they have the right to punish people who break their laws according to the prescribed punishments. Who are we to question this?

You keep asking this, but it's very unclear. What are you trying to imply by this?

Once again, thanks for a good argument!

The scarfs, the gowns, the vails. It is to curb the temptation. This is how they think. The women keep covered to show their respect for the man. And the man wears the gowns to curb temptation from the women. This is very serious business to them. Like I said about your picture you are not showing respect to the man. Where are the stones?LOL

Your quote...
Iran is a sovereign state and has the right to acquire nuclear arms just like any other state too, whether we like it or not. We need to shift into a different gear and find a new approach. We are making them resentful.

A spoiled kid is resentful when they don't get chocolate. Even though it is liable to give them a stomach ache. Here is the reason.

Resentfull? No it is'nt. This is all about glory. This is how they prove they are a great warrior to allah. To get the rewards in heaven. They use a biblcal principal here. You tell how successfull you are by who your enemies are. Another principal with them is a certain ammount of people have to die before allah can come back. This is NOT a morality question it is a virtue question to them. And their virtue is to kill the INFADEL. Which means non believer.

It is not a Soveriegnity problem here. The fact that they govern themselves is not a problem. They need this nuclear power for a very basic reason. It is another Biblical reason. It is so that our Nations women and young girls will sing songs of eulogy and and that our right women will be given to our enemies. In this case them. This means your race is wiped out. This has to be done to the west. We do not kill our adulterers our fornicaters our gays etc.... We are infadels.

This liberal way of thinking makes me very tired. I wrote without using any religious points so you can read and understand. Otherwise there is alot of reasons to refer to the word of God here.

I will tell you this again though.
Longevity of life for the women in a Nation is a Blessing from God. Principal they teach the young girls.
What are you teaching the young girls? Taranitely?

Like I said, their sharia law presribes this. They have the right to institute and follow whatever laws they want to and we don't have the right to interfere with that process. Furthermore, they can prescribe any punishment for transgression. Again, this is not for us to judge. Let us leave it at that.

Okay... that's in bad taste. However, since I am not in any of those countries, their rules do not apply to me. If I were to visit such a country, I would dress appropriately. This is tolerance.

Not sure where you are getting this from... it certainly doesn't appear anywhere in their religious literature. Perhaps it is just fanaticism.

Furthermore, you cannot deny them the right to build nuclear weapons when your country has thousands of these missiles already and refuses to disarm. That's just hypocritical, regardless of their intentions.

Bringing this back to the Obama vs McCain debate, it is my view that neither of them can do anything about it anyway. No trade embargoes will pass in the UN due to the veto votes of countries like Russia and China. There is no military solution to this since the American army is too stretched and their is no support for such action back hom