Let's return to the issue at hand, since it's easy to find poor comparisons and alternative meanings to explain your way. eggsoversy said that the Republican campaign will be run with integerity and virtue. I disagree with this since, like any other political campaign, it will involve taking low blows at the opposition (Obama) in order to score cheap political pointsand try to win the election. This means that the Republican campaign will not be run with either integrity or virtue. eggsoversy also said that the younger generation should be taught to expect integrity and virtue and then demand this from politicians, before launching into an emotional rant. I never disagreed with this, although some people seem to have misinterpreted my words completely. I merely said that it wasn't there in modern politics, so people shouldn't be deluded into thinking that it is. The older generation should teach the younger generation to be realistic about the situation: while ideally they want politicians with integrity and virtue, they must also be able to realise when politicians lack these characteristics. eggsoversy then unfairly asked What is your character? What are you teaching the young girls? Not exactly like I'm that old but I believe that young girls (and boys) should be taught to question rather than just accept, like I've been saying from the beginning. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that. To conclude, "expect" may be a poorly chosen word. "Hope", "want" or "desire" would be much less ambiguous. If you expect something, it means there is a pretty good chance of it happening (like the sun rising), whereas if you hope for something, it is a lot less likely (like a politician with integrity and virtue).

To be totally honest, I have no idea what you are trying to tell me... but... All that I am saying is don't EXPECT that politicians will have integrity or virtue. I did not say that doing so was Wussing Out, just delusional. Teaching the "younger generation" to expect integrity and virtue when those qualities aren't there just perpetuates the cycle of ignorance and is a good example of stereotypical and authoritarian thinking. Instead, we should teach them to be open-minded and critical individuals, capable of thinking their own thoughts and not just agreeing with everyone else. Do you call someone doing that an "uncaring self-server"? I think teaching them to blindly follow is more characteristic of an "uncaring self-server". And yeah... it's the other way around.

What the Amazing Grace is (here-and-now) is 'that the things we can use are ours' (or 'that the things which are ours are things we can use,' only different in temporal terms). 'The knowledge that people react to things more-fully if you associate them with God' is one of the things people use. Use it well? Hopefully. Use it badly? I pray not, but **it happens. All we can do is continue to use it well and prosper the ones who follow us. Disagree? Join Here, Be Heard!

It seems a literally democratic ideal: Run your own country. Obviously we can't actually do that, so the next best thing would be to vote for the one who's made the choices you would make, who's ended up where you would like to be in life; then it's almost as if the president is truly your 'leader'---going ahead of you to go where you would send yourself! Disagree? Join Here, Be Heard!