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President Bush and Senator Kennedy Present: Amnesty 101

posted May 20, 2007 - 11:44am
President Bush and Senator Kennedy Present: Amnesty 101

This Monday, at 1:00 pm, the Senate will convene to discuss Senator Kennedy's bill to give amnesty to all illegal aliens living in the United States right now. Right now, it is around 400 pages long. And Republicans in the Senate are just lining up around the block to support it, like ''conservative'' John McCain, the same who couldn't be bothered to show up to vote against a bill issuing mandatory deadlines for our troops in Iraq. Senator John Kyl said on Hannity & Colmes, ''I think the text will be done by tomorrow and there will be plenty of time to read it... I fought very hard for what I believe... I'm confident that the provisions I fought for will make it a much better bill... This is a parole, not an amnesty.''

A Michelle Malkin reader sums it up perfectly: ''If this is a parole, will anyone go to jail for not following the law or will this be another non-enforced law?''

I'm surprised that there aren't more immigrants here legally that are furious over this. Every time I hear the word amnesty, I think of what a slap in the face it is to every person who follows the law and comes here through legal channels. Why bother? Just swim across the Rio Grande and live here for free! You don't have to follow our laws, speak our language, or pay our taxes, and we'll welcome you with open arms, even when you blatantly smuggle drugs across the border. And now, we'll reward you for all of that by just handing you a Z-Visa and making it official. Chalk up another couple million for welfare and prisons!

There are some outraged by this bill. Presidential candidate Mitt Romney said, ''I strongly oppose today's bill going through the Senate. It is the wrong approach. Any legislation that allows illegal immigrants to stay in the country indefinitely, as the new 'Z-Visa' does, is a form of amnesty. That is unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S.''

But no one is angrier than presidential candidate Duncan Hunter. ''I vow to oppose this legislation supported by Senators Edward Kennedy and John McCain.It provides a vast new immigration benefit to millions of illegal aliens who have broken our laws to live in the United States,'' he said on his website. ''This package will confirm to the world that the U.S. does not really mean what it says when it comes to immigration enforcement.As a result of the citizenship benefit included in this legislation, despite the fine print, we will see a stampede across our borders.''

It cuts down the Border Fence Act, which Hunter wrote, and President Bush signed into law. In San Diego, the only area where the double fence has actually been built, drug smuggling has decreased by 90%. Crime rates are down as well, including violent crimes like rape, assault, robbery, and murder. But of course, we're just taking in families, right? Not criminals. Oh, wait -- they're automatically criminals... kinda broke the law coming in illegally. What a concept!

As Hunter says, this bill will bring a stampede across our borders. And it will leave them open and porous -- not so good when you have people in the Middle East plotting to kill us.

John Hawkins of RightWingNews.com pointed out that this is not Kennedy's first brush with amnesty. He laid out a timeline:


  • 1965: ''The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.''


  • 1986: ''This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.''


  • 2007: ''Now it is time for action. 2007 is the year we must fix our broken system.''

    Conservatives everywhere are outraged by this proposal, as they should be. Unfortunately, Republicans in Congress haven't picked up the hint that they were voted out this past election season for ignoring their base, and now they're just doing the same thing again. They just don't get it, do they? The majority of Americans are against amnesty. We don't want floods of people coming her illegally. Most of us are all for people immigrating here, but we just want them to do it through legal channels, but the government won't enforce our border or deport those here illegally.

    Want proof?

    In Hazleton, Pennsylvania -- a blue state in the last presidential election -- Mayor Lou Barletta has gained national prominence by winning both the Republican and Democratic nomination. He sent instructions to Democratic voters telling them to write in his name, and it worked. He won 94% of the vote, cruising his way to a third term. What was the position that made him so popular? He proposed the Illegal Immigration Relief Act, which penalizes any landlord who rents to illegal immigrants or businesses that hire them. And he actually plans to enforce that law -- something the federal government can't seem to grasp.

    We need 41 Senators to support a filibuster, and right now it isn't looking like that's going to happen. However, as John Hawkins put it, we can try to pull a Harriet Miers. Let them know how unhappy you are about this. Hawkins encouraged his readers to contact senators, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and the Republican National Committee, and I'm doing the same.

    As John said, ''If you have a Republican Senator, pick up the phone and call them. Since it's the week-end, you may have to leave a message, but that's fine. If they have to spend 30-40 minutes listening to unhappy constituents first thing on Monday, that's a great way for them to start the day... When you make these calls be POLITE, but firm. And if you have been complaining about this bill, do make the call. If these guys get enough calls, they will back down, but it's not going to happen unless people step up to the plate.''

    So make the calls. If Senators can get an idea of how unpopular this bill is, then we might be able to round up enough to filibuster.

    Get the names, numbers, and e-mail addresses of US Senators here. Call them. Call them even if they aren't your state senator. Take whatever approach you want, however you think you can convince them -- Republican or Democrat -- to vote against this bill. Like John said, be polite, but firm.

    Call the National Republican Senatorial Committee at (202) 675-6000 and the Republican National Committee at (202)-863-8500. Leave messages saying you won't support the reelection of any senator who supports this bill. Don't back down. Keep the pressure on. If the good of the country and the American people isn't enough incentive to get them to vote against this bill, then threatening their political careers will. If they realize this will cost them their spot in the Senate, they'll vote against it. So don't give up. Keep e-mailing, keep calling. We can get the message across, if we all stand together and make our voices heard.


    • Author: cassyfiano
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    Especially with Our Current System

    mythman - Mon, 2007-21-5 12:42 pm
    Before our money went faith-(or whatever)-based, money wasn't part of a system---the country that found it was the country that had it ... maybe that's thinking back to the discoverers' days, but the premise stayed the same until we (and other countries, I imagine) went off of the real basis for money (gold, silver, etc.) With the faith-based money-system, the amount America has is fairly uniform (assuming we somehow make up for all the 'imaginary' loans that are out) ... i.e. we know that--if we spend money--it'll work its way back to us through the system. But if we give the money to people outside the system, we'll know neither if it will ever come back (no matter how hard we work) nor where it's going ... which is always scary. Add to Technorati-favorites

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    Mythman, deporting large

    Publius - Mon, 2007-21-5 10:07 am
    Mythman, deporting large amounts of illegal aliens isn't going to be "fast" any way you look at it. But it can be done. If these people are on a business payroll, they can be identified. If they are using a fake SSN for work, they can easily be identified, and many already are...but other than the SS Administration informing the employer, no other action is taken. For the ones being paid under the table, if you start cracking down on businesses that do that, such as fines, audits for tax evasion, or shutting down their businesses, it will soon stop. Once you have these illegals, they should be on a bus or plane heading home within a week at most. We have the capacity to do that. Cassy, you mentioned that most of these people don't want to be American or to assimilate, which is exactly right. All they want is the higher wages so they can live large in Mexico once they return. The problem is, they are draining the social networks in our country in the meantime and demanding equal rights as American citizens, even though they've broken our immigration laws and continue to break them every second they remain here. They don't care about assimilation, they care about money and our welfare state. I've had enough of this multiculturalism BS and pandering to people who ought to be sitting in jail until we deport their criminal a**es. Cassy, if you're interested, I wrote an article some months ago about multiculturalism and assimilation. It's called "Multiculturalism & You"...TR was a great man. http://www.xomba.com/multiculturalism_and_you This is another gem if you haven't read it yet: http://www.xomba.com/illegal_aliens_a_simple_solution

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    Also, they don't want to contribute to America

    cassyfiano - Mon, 2007-21-5 7:36 am
    "Many in Mexico — and U.S. employers who say they need workers for low-skilled jobs — had hoped Congress would expand the guestworker program and allow more to cross legally, work a few months and then return home with their savings to build homes and businesses. Gilberto Escalante, a 41-year-old fisherman from Sinaloa state, said the current temporary visa program is better than the congressional plan because it gives Mexicans the option to freely enter and leave the U.S. while maintaining their lives in Mexico — instead of forcing them to choose between the two countries. 'We don’t want the house or the latest car in the U.S. We want to go and work so that our families can have a good life in Mexico,' said Escalante, who is seeking a visa to work on fish and shrimp boats off the coast of Mississippi." They don't want to come here and assimilate. They don't want to contribute to our economy or call themselves Americans. They. Should. Not. Be. Here. End of story. "We have room for but one flag, the American Flag. We have room for but one language, the English language, and we have room for but one sole loyalty, and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Former Pres. Theodore Roosevelt.

    Jobs Americans won't do is bulls***

    cassyfiano - Mon, 2007-21-5 7:17 am
    "Swift & Company today reported its return to standard staffing levels at all four domestic beef processing facilities after the detention and removal, on December 12, 2006, of approximately 950 Swift Beef employees by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement ("ICE") division."

    Is There a Fast Way, Publius?

    mythman - Mon, 2007-21-5 2:35 am
    Can we ask every janitor we see for their name and -social-security number? If we write those down and check them against a database, then we can turn their hirers in? Add to Technorati-favorites

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    I understand what you mean,

    Publius - Sun, 2007-20-5 4:40 pm
    I understand what you mean, threeg5. You will constantly hear the mantra that "illegal immigrants are doing the jobs Americans don't want to do." That's another load of BS. Americans don't want to do these jobs for a few bucks an hour. They'd be willing to do the jobs if they were paid accordingly. But the employers know they have a constant stream of illegal workers that they don't need to pay fairly and a government that will not seriously enforce the existing laws. If you start to severely fine, or shut down the business owners who illegally employ these workers, sooner or later they will begin to realize it's not worth it to hire illegal aliens. If it's harder for illegals to find a job here, it will help deter them from coming. And if you combine that with the fact that they cannot receive government services, most of the problems will correct themselves...they will eventually go back home. For the rest that have fake documents and participate in identity theft for the purpose of collecting social benefits, round them up and send them packing. If these people have no incentive to come here, they'll more than likely stay home. The problem is, we are not enforcing our laws so they continue to break them...both employers and the illegal aliens they hire. If you take away the priveleges that they should not be receiving to begin with, you take away the reason for entering the country illegally.

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    You've got the info....

    cassyfiano - Sun, 2007-20-5 4:33 pm
    I'm glad to see y'all oppose this as much as I do. Click the links, get the numbers for your senators and give them a ring. If their mailbox is full, then call another few senators. They don't have to be Republican. Call as many as you can. It can work -- John McCain's mailbox was full last time I checked. That can make an impact, not on all of them, but hopefully enough to get together and filibuster. Joe Liebermann is one I'd definitely recommend contacting as well.

    Thank you

    threeg5 - Sun, 2007-20-5 4:11 pm
    I thank you for the information as in your link and I did not realize that this was the FairTax. I live in central MS and although this my not seem like a place that would understand about the illegal employment rate, believe me I have friends that have had to move because they were unable to continue their employment because of people willing to do the job less so they do not have to go through the "process". (that is becoming a legal alien of The United States of America) In other words they have been fired so that someone can hire 2 people for the same wage as it would to keep 1 hired. Then they train them and force them to work for a less then what they actually are worth, therefore actually hurting the entire economy. does all of this make sense? I don't know if it does to you, but it does to me! I am not a fan of putting people behind bars (jail) for this? why? you ask, well simple this would mean what they had a life and now someone else took it away for a mere 3 months ( I have seen it happen first hand) A local Construction company had 14 illegals working for them they were found guilty and the owner who fought this tooth and nail received only 3 months for 6 years of reduced labor pay. Who won out there? the illegals were given the opportunity to make right and those that didn't were given a bus ticket (yes a real bus ticket) back home. You see that is unfair. I believe that people who are responsible for this type of crime should not be protected under certain INC. and LLC laws they should be held PERSONALLY accountable and those nice houses and cars and trucks and boats and planes should be taken away from them sold and then money given back to the locale that it should have been dispersed to in the first place. So I guess my problem is in fact what low wage accepting illegals create for my local economy and trust me if they can affect a county with a population of about 22k then imagine what they are doing to a population of 300million (The United States of America)

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    Another great article,

    Publius - Sun, 2007-20-5 3:37 pm
    Another great article, Cassy. This bill is a disgrace and every politician supporting it should be held accountable. The American people have spoken about this...and they do not want it. This is an issue that transcends political ideologies and all of these politicians in Washington are blatantly ignoring a large majority of the citizens of this country. Now, to threeg5's point - employers must be held accountable. If they hire illegals, they are breaking the law and must be severely punished for it for many reasons. First, their business practice is what is called "unethical." Second, they are contributing to a permanent underclass by paying below-poverty wages. Third, these employees are not protected by things such as worker's compensation or health coverage, unless it is done illegally, which contributes to...fourth - identity theft. Employers need to face harsh punishment for hiring illegals, illegal aliens need to be prevented from collecting any kind of social benefits - like health care, welfare, public education - the border fence needs to be built NOW, and we need to start deporting all illegal aliens that are identified immediately. It can be done and it has been done recently by the INS and ICE. The tax problem is an entirely different issue, but it is something that does need to be addressed soon. Your idea that you mentioned (threeg5) about a sales tax is not a "flat tax" it is the FairTax. You can read all about it here: http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer This immigration business is no joke. This bill needs to be defeated or else we will see much worse conditions in the very near future. Just ask anyone living in Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas how bad the problem is. Public schools are overcrowded with students that can't speak english, hospitals are shut down because they can't afford to stay open due to the influx of illegal aliens visiting emergency rooms with no health coverage...and this is slowly spreading to other parts of the nation. Colorado, North Carolina, Florida...it won't stop unless we demand it from our politicians and hold them accountable by removing them from office. It doesn't matter how long they've held their position. If they will no longer listen to their constituents, vote them out! We do not need millions of unskilled, uneducated criminals added to our population. And every single one of them that come into this country illegally is a criminal. This bill is amnesty. The punishment for illegally entering our country is deportation. Anything else is amnesty, so don't let these politicians fool you. Once this bill is signed, every one of these illegal aliens is now legally here. None of the provisions will be enforced...we've been fed this line of BS before and it's no different now. It's time to wake up America. You're way of life is eroding from right under your noses. Don't let our overpowering federal government impose its will on us. It's time for them to fear us once again.

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    There is an easy solution to Illegal Immigration

    threeg5 - Sun, 2007-20-5 2:53 pm
    All you really have to do is hold all business accountable for their employees. PERIOD! Now let me explain a bit. If every single "Employer" was made to give list of all people that worked for him and then audited, then all money would have to be accounted for. No one wants to pay tax later on money they make now, so they aren't going to lie about were the money went. Yes some would have to be made examples of and yes we would find out all kind of dirty laundry on all kinds of people and business but it would force every one to know what is really going on and where all the money is really going and coming from. Now as far as the audit well what we really need is a flat tax.put it on money spent at the cash register. make the business responsible for collecting the tax. This I understand is a whole nother subject but think about this a bit and see where it all points. I think everyone will begin to see that if the government would crack down on the existing laws (like the one I stated before) then Illegal immigration would be lower on the list of priorties.

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