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Real Dolls: A Sex-Positive Feminist's Analysis

posted September 13, 2008 - 3:21pm
Real Dolls: A Sex-Positive Feminist's Analysis

Real dolls: the ultimate in sex toy, or the ultimate in objectification?

For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, open up a new tab and Google “Real Doll” (sorry, I can't link the site as it is adult in nature). Your first hit should be the official website for Real Dolls, the full-sized, silicone-and-rubber sex dolls that some men are willing to spend thousands of dollars to own.

Meanwhile, many feminists are unsettled by the potential ramifications of women being so easily replaced by plastic.

First of all, I must confess that when I look at these things, my first opinion of them springs not from my inner feminist, but from my inner special effects designer. These things are amazing examples of craftsmanship! Honestly, I'd pay a lot of money to learn technique from the people who make these, because they really do look incredibly realistic (and learning how to make convincing looking fake bodies is kind of a dream of mine, though for rather different reasons).

However, it puzzles me a little to see such artistic talent go into this kind of a product, and it makes me wonder if artisans with this much ability and sensitivity to detail can display the same sensitivity to the effects products like this have on society.

I myself have something of a hard time figuring out what to say about Real Dolls. On the one hand, I'm a very sex-positive feminist. I support sex and men's sexuality, including masturbation, toy, and porn usage. I also don't think it's necessarily crazy to spend a truly ridiculous amount of money on a sex product, if that's what you're really into.

But while I feel that guys are far too often demonized by women (and bad feminists, both male and female) for expressing their natural urges, I reserve the right to criticize aspects of the sex industry for catering to patriarchy and dominance more than they cater to healthy and natural sexual desire.

As such, Real Dolls make me uneasy. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't believe for an instant the makers of these dolls sat down at their drawing table and said, “Let's design a product that will be the ultimate in portraying women as objects and promoting unrealistic beauty standards,” but that's just what Real Dolls do; the product is merely a response to an already sickened state of society.

I say this because of what I've learned about the sorts of men who buy them. The price of these things (upwards of $6,000 apiece) means that, generally speaking, they're not a sex toy, they're a lifestyle decision. In addition to the detailed testimonials you can read on the Real Doll website, there have been books, documentaries, and even a feature film (Lars and the Real Woman) made about the kinds of guys who buy Real Dolls, not just as a way to get their rocks off, but as a genuine substitute for a real woman. In fact, they often say something along the lines of, “this is so much better than a real woman,” and that's when this author starts to get a serious case of the jibblies.

What does it say about the state of our society when there are men who consider an inanimate object to not only be a suitable replacement for a real women, but an improvement?

The me, the answer seems obvious: we have pushed so hard the notion that the ideal woman is an object of physical perfection and non-personhood, that now we are seeing the ultimate expression of that ideal in the form of “women” who are no longer even people.

She can't move. She can't argue. She can't disapprove. She can't have opinions of her own or express herself, because there's nothing to express. Her body will never change from the cold (literally and figuratively), unattainable ideal it is now. She cannot love or hate or converse or dream, she has no needs or desires, no talents or aspirations. She cannot challenge you or support you, nor can you do either of these for her. She is every bit as human as your sofa.

And to some men...she's perfect.

Am I the only one who thinks there might be something wrong with that?



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"masculinism refers to a

"masculinism refers to a belief in the superiority of men or the masculine" Actually that is the feminist definition of masculinism here is the whole sentence "In an older, usually critical, sense used in feminist thought, sociology, anthropology, psychology, masculinism refers to a belief in the superiority of men or the masculine" A self-identified masculinist would not define him/herself this way. In reading the list of masculist concerns I think they have some good points and I don't think they are trying to blame feminism for these things but I think the strong focus on feminism may take attention away from issues that has to do with mens rights. I don't think they are necessarily supporters of pathriarchy so I think it's unjustified of you to accuse them of having dug their own grave. Besides patriarchy is not the sole reason for all the problems they cite. It all boils down to human rights and the right to the same treatment as other human beings in the end. People need to ask themselves if we see ourselves first and foremost as a gender or as human beings. I agree with you that gender roles should be eliminated at the political level. But men and women are still very different creatures and will inevitably, to some degree, take on different roles in society. Don't get me wrong I'm for equal rights for all human beings regardless of gender. But gender roles are not necessarily enforced by pathriarchy. The female gender role can also be enforced and upheld by women themselves sometimes for the good and sometimes for the worse the same goes for the male gender role. I guess what I'm saying is that as long as we are all treated as equal human beings we should accept manifestations of differences between genders and also between individuals. So if a woman of her own free will chooses to settle for a life as a housewife let her do so and don't suspect her of being a victim of patriarchy because she made this decision, that would be disrespectful to her as an individual.

"Thanks for the suggestion

"Thanks for the suggestion (Sue Johannsen)but I'm not into that stuff." Yeah, I don't think masturbation sleeves hold as wide an appeal for men as dildos do for women. But whatever gets you through the night. I do know that porn holds a pretty wide appeal for guys, so maybe that's a better comparison. Straight guys get tons of flack for enjoying porn, and that's completely unfair (my reservations about how misogynist mainstream porn tends to be aside). "I agree that people that use these dolls as an emotional replacement for another human being are very sad people with some serious issues but I don't think you can blame society for the state they're in. They obviously have some form of mental illness." Can't it be both? I think people with those sorts of mental instabilities serve as a barometer, if you will, of what sorts of dangerous impressions society is putting out. The same can be said of a lot serial woman killers and rapists - it may be their own problem that they take the messages so much to heart, but they don't actually create them. Meanwhile those same message are having a more subtle effect on those of us who are of sound mind, but still an effect. "However, I don't think there's a lot wrong with them mentally, unless the doll works as an emotional substitute for a real person." Interestingly enough, I'm more on the fence about these dolls than my boyfriend, who finds the whole idea of them terrifying. Most guys I know well enough to ask would never be interested in using one, and I really think the appeal of them is in the idea that the perfect woman is an object. Theoretically, I suppose, they could just be another sex toy, but given how elaborate and expensive the damn things are, I doubt there are many guys out there who use them that way. I could be wrong, but I'm quite sure that objectification is a factor at least most of the time. "...but what the feminsts fail to realize is that all men are potential sex offenders because of the fact that all women are potentially sexually attractive..." No decent man is going to turn into a rapist because a woman is just that attractive. That's a dangerous myth. "But I googled it and there is actually such a thing as masculinism check it out!" From the article you linked: "masculinism refers to a belief in the superiority of men or the masculine" Lovely. I am so sick of so-called "men's rights" activists who can't see that patriarchy, not feminism, is the source of the problems they cite. Though, of course, I'm equally sick of the man-hating "feminists" who give them fuel. People really need to realize that gender roles and the quest for equality is not a matter of men vs. women or of "balancing" male and female privellege - it's a matter of eliminating constricting roles and just freakin' letting people be who they are. I'm a feminist because I hate patriarchy. Being opposed to patriarchy is not being opposed to men, because patriarchy hurts men, too! The price of institutional power over women is the denial of one's humanity.

Thanks for the suggestion

Thanks for the suggestion (Sue Johannsen)but I'm not into that stuff. I agree that people that use these dolls as an emotional replacement for another human being are very sad people with some serious issues but I don't think you can blame society for the state they're in. They obviously have some form of mental illness. Although I have nothing against people who buy these dolls just for sexual pleasure. It's a bit weird and they need to be rich and lonely and maybe less sexually appealing or maybe all (or none) of the above. Maybe they just find it less risky than having sex with a prostitute. However, I don't think there's a lot wrong with them mentally, unless the doll works as an emotional substitute for a real person. what is a masculinist? Masculinists fight for mens right to be men in modern society etc... Masculinists claims that men should have the same salary as women even if it means a reduction in their pay, masculinists also want more men in inferior positions in society to even out the social inequalities between men and women. Masculinists wants more female mechanics and generally more females in typically masculine male dominated jobs, such as head of state,on the other hand they also want more males in female dominated professions such as nursing and prostitution. Some extreme masculinist are likely to state that all women are animals (birds) and potentially sexually attractive. This view is in direct opposition to extreme feminists who believes all men are animals (dogs/monkeys) and potential sex offenders, but what the feminsts fail to realize is that all men are potential sex offenders because of the fact that all women are potentially sexually attractive to the point of offensiveness and round and round we go... Ok enough jibberish I made it up! But I googled it and there is actually such a thing as masculinism check it out! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism

Definitely a double standard!

I agree wholeheartedly that there's a double standard when it comes to men and sex. However, while I will take to task any woman who displays this hypocrisy, I think it's wrong to blame feminism as a whole (if that's what you're doing) for the fact that men have not yet had their revolution from the forces of sexual prudishness. "Now that's what I call double standards, my impression is that there are more women out there who owns designer dildos than their male counterpart..." Well, part of it, I think, is simply the fact that when it comes to masturbation, a bunch of rolled up fingers simulate a vaginal passageway rather better than a hand can be made into a dildo. But I don't consider a guy a perv in the slightest if he wants to buy himself a nice designer sleeve (Sue Johannsen has a great one on the market, by the way. At least, it looks to me like it would be great. I don't have a penis myself, so I wouldn't really know). However, like I said in my article, the point at which a guy considers a piece of rubber to be a sufficient EMOTIONAL replacement for a woman, I worry. There's a difference between a sleeve and a fake person, and if you visit the real doll site, you'll see that they did try to have one male real doll on the market, but women weren't exactly flocking to buy it. "...without being frowned upon by angry masculinists?" What on earth is a masculinist?

Funny you should bring this up

As I just had a dicussion with three friends (female) about sex toys. (They brought it up) One of them told me she had just spent 3500 NKR (about 600 dollars) on sex toys (mostly dildos)on a weekend trip to oslo when they happened to pass by a sex botique while drunk. She then handed out dildos to the rest of her friends and a few people passing . She made it a point to tell me about this particular lifelike dildo with veins and all, and in skinlike synthetic material of course with a vibrator and definetely larger than the average penis, it was perfection, I believe she was actually telling me about the incarnation of the ultimate objectification of the male genitalia. To me this was a bit strange as I have never owned a sex toy neither has any of my friends (that I know of). Now if I went in to a sex shop and did what this girl did I would definetely be labeled a pervert. However I don't see anything wrong with what she did,it's just a bit weird, but if I did something as uncomparable as buying a single sex toy for men i'm an instant pervert. Isn't that ironic? I told them this and they agreed, they would actually think I was a some kind of deranged creature if they didn't know me and they would suddenly find a doll in my apartment or if they saw me buy one. Now that's what I call double standards, my impression is that there are more women out there who owns designer dildos than their male counterpart, or maybe women are just free to talk about it without being frowned upon by angry masculinists?

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