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The Man Made God

posted July 13, 2008 - 12:56am
The Man Made God

In heaven holy means unique. In heaven there was a war. Satan said “I will be like the most high god.” He said "you aren’t unique." God said I will make something that will be worse than you and get them into heaven.

God than cast Satan out of heaven Satan swiped his tail and took one third of the stars with him. Even the elect had choice. God created the world and said here Satan.

This is what is meant by "Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world."

Thus we have mythology. Apollo, Neptune, Hades, Azuse, Cyclopes, Achilles, Odysseus drama etc…this is before time and are the ones who chose to go with Satan.

God created the human. A perfect God can’t fellowship with anything that isn’t perfect. Satan knew this. God would have to break the barrier between imperfect and perfect. Satan did not expect the virgin birth.

The virgin birth gave Jesus the ability to sin because he was human and the ability not to sin because “the old sin nature” “the old man”, was not imputed into him from the man. God was able to fellowship with Jesus one hundred percent of the time while Jesus was on the earth. Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit every moment of His life on earth.

At the same time this made it so Jesus, in His humanity was able to look at us humans and know why we do what we do with understanding. God the Father, who can only look at perfect, looks at Jesus. It is not the sinner God hates only the sins. Through Grace, problem solved.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Ephesians 2:8



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Not "Yea or Nay" ... More Like "Yea A.N.D Nay!"

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In Short, 'You Choose to Believe or to Not Believe' ... There...

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No, We Do Not Know God!

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" Until you can acknowledge

" Until you can acknowledge these points, there's nothing more we can do here. Your line of questions are based entirely on Biblical "proofs." Correct I want to know what you know Publius not argue points. Can you answer these questions I asked in the previous reply. I am sure you can, but it will be human viewpoint. We could actually compare answers. I believe it might prove something. Your points you have made honestly are very elementary. I have a hard time taking them serious because I can see how man can talk himself into a circle. Same as don't spank your kids and the state will take care of them later. That is spiritual understanding. But goes farther. The liberal knows this will cause a supply and demand. A supply for their "non money" programs of anger management etc... and the supply of individuals who will not only need the program but will be mandated to comply to by the courts. This is what is meant by what is in the world. The world will do this in the name of good. "I am helping someone" That is also what is called hay wood and stubble and not silver and gold and precious stones. The example used for this is in the test of fire hay wood and stumble burns up to nothing. Silver, gold and precious stones get prettier. I will go over your points Publius and comment on them as time permits. It is the election season and I am very busy with and involved in it. So honestly some replies are done with less energy than I would normally use.

You are asking the wrong

You are asking the wrong questions while you are answering none. Your beliefs of God rely on Biblical texts, and you accept these texts because you believe it to be the word of God. This is what one would call "begging the question." It is an entirely fallacious argument. Your entire list of questions is irrelevant. You missed the point. Your beliefs are simply the result of religious evolution. In none of your comments do you acknowledge the points I've made previously. That is, your assumptions about God do not stand up to any reasonable analysis. The attributes that are assigned to God can be exposed to contradictions. I've pointed a few of them out. Until you can acknowledge these points, there's nothing more we can do here. Your line of questions are based entirely on Biblical "proofs." None of my answers will matter unless they are consistent with what the Bible deems accurate, or "true." It's completely illogical. "Why do articles against God go straight to the top of the list and an article for God get poor ratings but seventy replies?" I don't know - perhaps the same reason why articles that support the Democrat/socialist agenda get higher ratings and attention than articles that oppose it. It's an up-hill battle that I've been fighting for nearly two years...with little results. *If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

"The "word of God" is simply

"The "word of God" is simply words from men." Okay Mr. know it all I have studied it all and know everything. Why no premarital sex? What does it cause? Why is it compared to a donkey in the wilderness? Why is it also compared to the empty cistern? What is the white horse symolizing and why? Why did Jesus ride a donkey into Jerusalem carrying palm leaves and what did this symbolize? And don't tell me Peace, explain it wise guy. How did God ensure wars and rumors of wars. And how did this happen? Can we humans lie? If so when and why? Can we kill? If so when and why? What is the mark of the criminal? Why does a butch lesbian cut her hair? Why does a man wear short hair? What is the gate? What is the wheel? What is the heart? What is the Shekinah Glory? What is good counsel? What is fellowship? Why did the sacrifice for fellowship in the old testament take two lambs? What is the seed of God? And don't just tell me the Jewish. You answer these questions I will know you understand spiritual. Until than you will get the GOSPEL only. What is meant by peace on earth? Don't tell me no war in the world. I want to know what you have studied smart guy. I am not here to tickle your ear. If you want the word of God believe in Jesus and you will be able to understand it. Untill than you are just another smart guy. Why do articles against God go straight to the top of the list and an article for God get poor ratings but seventy replies? These are simple questions Publius with simple spiritual answers. Now is your chance show me what you know. Believe in Jesus you will be saved.

I have studied the "word of

I have studied the "word of God" - I had over eight years of Catholic school and have been through the Bible several times over. I've studied religion since then and I know both sides of the argument, which is why I'm able to sort through the nonsense and recognize what is and what isn't. The "word of God" is simply words from men. "Divine viewpoint" is human viewpoint. God did not write the Old Testament. Jesus did not write the New Testament. The Church made the Bible what it is. I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to understand that. The Tanakh, the Bible, the Qur'an, the Vedic scriptures, the Sutras...it doesn't matter what religion and it doesn't matter which book - they're all written by man, all a creation of man. If you knew the histories of the various religions, you would be able to see that there is not much that is entirely unique to any of them. The Abrahamic religions borrowed from Egyptian mythology, Zoroastrianism, the Dravidians, the Sumerians...The Hindu religions borrowed from the Dravidians, the Sumerians, and the Eastern religions...Just about every one of those have roots in animism, astrology, and pagan beliefs. It's been a gradual evolution probably since our early ancestors first became self-aware. What you "know" about God and your spirituality is simply what you have been taught through "scripture." I know these comments are mostly futile for me to make, but it's important that you at least understand where your beliefs came from. If you cannot understand or accept the roots of your religion or acknowledge why it came to be, then you will never fully comprehend just what religion/spirituality is supposed to be. And if youre not willing to acknowledge that when we attribute certain qualities to the divine entities we believe in, then that divinity will be exposed to logical criticism - because at that point, it becomes a human manifestation. Believing in Jesus or any god will not make me enlightened and it will not make me see the unseeable. It will simply make me a product of faith. I've been down that road and nothing came of it except an unwillingness to look beyond what was taught as "truth." The "word of God" will always be a mystery to me...because I am merely a finite being trying to grasp the word of an infinite god. And talking in circles is not something that I should be concerned about. I know the beginning and end of my arguments. I have yet to see you point out the flaws in them - even when they are based on your premises. You simply introduce another purely faith-based element (the Holy Spirit) and claim that it can't be known by people who don't already believe in the religious philosophy that created it. *If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

"Spirit understands

"Spirit understands spiritual. Just like rational understands rational, logical understands logical, and reasonable understands reasonable?" We are in the mystery age Publius. Believe in Jesus and you can see what I mean about Spiritual and non spiritual differences. Sure rational calls faith in this case irrational, logical says faith is illogical and reasonable calls this faith unreasonalble. So what is your point? Nature itself screams out their is a God. Believe in Jesus thow hall be saved. "That is why the Holy Spirit is the interpreter." Believe in Jesus and you will understand what you yourself are asking here untill than the Holy Spirit through Grace will interpret the Gospel to you. Make up your mind Yay or Nay. Up to you. Other than that the word of God will stay a mystery to you, and thru the critical thinking you are trained to do your human viewpoint will talk you into circles. You are smart Publious very smart. Human viewpoint, Divine viewpoint.

"Spiritual understands

"Spiritual understands spiritual" - Just like rational understands rational, logical understands logical, and reasonable understands reasonable? Do you freely admit that faith and belief are not grounded in fact or critical thinking? I find it fascinating (and humorous) that we can agree on an initial premise, but then your ensuing deductive logic fails miserably. This must be where your faith kicks in. All of your preconceived notions about God and spirituality prevent you from making logical connections...even within your own set of premises. You have yet to make a plausible response to any of the comments I've made. And when you do, you come up with something like this: "That is why the Holy Spirit is the interpreter." So, in addition to relying purely on preconceived notions of God and spirituality - which are merely a product of the organized Church, I might add - now you have introduced the realm of the paranormal. And you use a ghost as the basis for this comment: "Now that we have negated the point your comment was based upon there is no more need to dissect the rest of your reply." Nothing has been "negated" by that reply. You have simply made the argument more ambiguous and reliant on additional preconceived beliefs. At this point, I'm not even sure that spiritual can understand spiritual. *If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

"If we are finite and God is

"If we are finite and God is infinite, then we cannot understand God." Correct Publius. That is why the Holy Spirit is the interpreter. God has done all of the work. It is a perfect plan. We not only understand Him we have a relationship in the privacy of our own soul with Him. Now that we have negated the point your comment was based upon there is no more need to dissect the rest of your reply. The problem is spiritual understands spiritual. Dichotomous trichotomous. I wish more pastors were preaching on this doctrine.

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