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The real American war

posted August 8, 2008 - 10:53am
The real American war

While most are wasting time in the political debates to either support his/her candidate or criticize the opponent, there is not much, if anything said, about the abortion mills operating in America where over 4,000 innocent, defenseless Americans are being butchered every single day. Since Rode vs. wade was passed, more than 44 million American have been sacrificed on the altar of "freedom of choice" which is nothing more than freedom to murder, assassinate, butcher, eliminate or dispose of totally innocent Americans. If only half of them would be living today, Social Security would be off the hook and showing substantial surplus, not to mention the enormous contribution to the economy and prosperity of America.

As if this were not shameful enough to our society, all this is done with tax payers money, forcibly making every single working American an accomplice to genocide. While murderers are "protected" by activist Judges of the Supreme Court, ordinary Americans have no choice but to continue to fund the most atrocious genocide committed in its history with the blessing of the Judicial tyrants and a complicit nod of the politicians on both side of the isle.

While destroying a bald eagle's egg is considered a crime punishable with severe fines and mandatory prison time, the killing of a human being is not only protected by the law but financed by our government.

And then we have the nerve to call ourselves civilized.

Author: lmorovan
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jdubhub

lmorovan - Sat, 2008-9-8 11:38 am
It seems it is you who refuse to see things from an overall perspective. You seem to consistently ignore the reality of the world we live in today, with the constant and permanent threat of terrorism, the rising of the European Empire, the regression of Russia to the dark ages of communism, the increase of Islamic propaganda world wide, etc. But most importantly, you seem to ignore that world affairs, of which the USA is only a part, are manipulated and staged by secret organization, out of the control and power of any nation in particular and the whole globe in general. What you say or what I say is so irrelevant to the current global situation that it is merely an exercise of an illusion. Presidents and rulers of the world are appointed, not elected, even if it looks otherwise. The day you understand we are not in Iraq because of President Bush or any other reason but the political, economic and strategic game of the powers behind the scene, you will understand the world we live in. From where I stand, it is not surprising. It was foretold and it will happen the way it was written. America will have no say in the end times, because America will not be a significant factor. And based on what is going on in America today, with the crumbling of our society in the hands of liberal anarchists, the future of our nation is not hard to forecast.

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How is Iraq not war for the sake of war?

jdubhub - Sat, 2008-9-8 11:16 am
The Iraq War was unnecessary and premeditated because Bush already was committed to taking Saddam out in 2002. If you had taken time to read my article on the Politics of Genocide, then you would understand that American policy in the Middle East going back to the CIA under Eisenhower removed a popular Iranian PM in 1952 that led us down the road where we found ourselves today. You now project "hate" on me. While it is true I have lost all respect for Bush and his Administration, the emotions that are most accurate are contempt for our so-called elected officials in Washington and profound sadness for what has been lost, especially the great potential for peace. I seriously doubt that you have been to those countries you feel it is okay to bomb indiscriminately or know anyone from those countries. I have actually been there and understand that those people living there are just like you and me. Would you be so cold-hearted to think that bombing American civilians and shelling American towns is okay? I ask because people like you take exception to others doing it on our soil, but you feel it is okay to do it to others. The war was precipitated by the hubris of George Bush and the Neocons who dominate his Administration. The tragedy of this war above the wholly unnecessary loss of life is that Americans are not going to learn from it and our country is going to keep repeating them. Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery and the first step to making sure we don't repeat history. If you are going to keep yourself cloaked in your biases, then there is nothing I can do to change your mind. But, ask yourself why our great "Christian" nation is not featured in the Bible. Ask yourself why we are relegated to the dustbin of history. You may argue and say that our country will retain its greatness and the fault of what's wrong lies with unbelievers in your dogma, but I will argue that people who stop doing the right thing because blaming others for our own faults and talking the talk without walking the walk is what got us here to begin with. DO YOU HAVE THE WRITE STUFF?

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Darrell Curts - Sat, 2008-9-8 9:16 am
Here is a website/blog that does a very good job at doing what kjhack is proposing. There is nothing wrong with it. It extols the virtues of not having sex, warns of ineffective methods and promotes healthy methods when the person is ready. http://beautylynz.blogspot.com/

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War is premeditaded

Martin123 - Sat, 2008-9-8 7:23 am
An Occupation War is premedidated it doesnt happen randomly, there is always an aggressor, it is well known that war always leads to the killing of civilians. Therefore war equals murder of civilians. However, it is not always that simple, as with the war in Iraq as with abortion. I guess that's hard for fundamentalists to realize.

Oh ,man!

kjhack - Fri, 2008-8-8 10:48 pm
I do not agree with your take on sexual compatibility. If that were an issue, it would have been established centuries ago. Many things were not issues centuries ago; it's just the way things were. But You see, things change for the better in most cases. A man is by default sexually compatible with a woman, and a woman is by nature sexually compatible with a man Oh ok, as long as part A goes into part B, the woman lies down in the missionary position...and WHAM! BAM! Thank you madam! Perfect compatibility. Are you for real? Would you like your daughter to experiment as much as she likes until she finds a sexually suitable man? And in the meantime, if she gets pregnant, encourage her or allow her to kill a potential human being only because the male may not be suitable for her? Uhhh, why do you always go for the extreme scenario? There's a big difference from sleeping with everything that moves, and sleeping with someone with whom you have an emotional bond. If I had a daughter, I would expect, in these modern times, that she would not wait until marriage to leave with someone she loved. I mean, that's just silly.

 
 

jdubhub

lmorovan - Fri, 2008-8-8 10:15 pm
I am familiar with the stories, but that gives you no holding point that I agree with war or with violence against civilians. Isolated incidents in which poorly trained or mentally unstable service men act against the rules of engagement must not be taken as a general characterization of the exemplary manner in which our Armed Forces conduct themselves in the battle fields. Not to mention that these isolated incidents must be the base on which you discharge all your hatred against the President and his Administration. War is a tragedy and innocent people die as a result. I do not condone war for the sake of war. But war is necessary when the good, welfare and security of the majority is at stake. We are fighting terrorists and insurgents who do not introduce themselves as such and who do not wear uniforms. And if you hesitate to use your weapon when an enemy is pointing one at you, then if you die it's your fault. Collateral damage is a bad consequence of war or any fighting, and I feel for every innocent that is caught in the crossfire. But claiming that the killing is intentional and purposeful is a terrible misleading statement and utterly untrue. And you know that. But it will not help your agenda or feed your irrational hatred against your own government and military.

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kjhack

lmorovan - Fri, 2008-8-8 10:00 pm
I agree, we can't roll back the clock. But we should have gone at the pace of the clock and keep that which was good and discard that which is bad. Regarding women, it is not a topic of this thread, so I will not comment on it. I do not agree with your take on sexual compatibility. If that were an issue, it would have been established centuries ago. But it was never an issue until "now". A man is by default sexually compatible with a woman, and a woman is by nature sexually compatible with a man. Your point is moot, and it is utterly offensive to women, who will likely have to engage in sexual relations with as many men as necessary until he or she finds the one that is "sexually compatible". Would you like your daughter to experiment as much as she likes until she finds a sexually suitable man? And in the meantime, if she gets pregnant, encourage her or allow her to kill a potential human being only because the male may not be suitable for her? I am sorry, I do not agree with your position.

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I'm not implying anything...I am stating simple truths

jdubhub - Fri, 2008-8-8 9:10 pm
I'm sure you believe Dresden was never firebombed in World War II or that atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki either. Rather, I don't think it's that you don't believe necessarily, but deep down inside you are scared of what it might mean if war that you watch on your television isn't as scrubbed and sanitary as you tell yourself. A person cannot claim to "support the troops" while they still support the illegal war that puts them in harms way unnecessarily. By the way, since you seem ashamed of me "implying the truth" I've gone ahead and linked to the article that spells it out. If you are indeed capable of handling the truth, that is. Top Marine Visits Iraq as Probe of Deaths Widens Quote:Hagee flew to Iraq yesterday "to reinforce the ideals, values and standards" of the Corps, the Marines said. "There is a risk of becoming indifferent to the loss of a human life, as well as bringing dishonor on ourselves," Hagee said in a statement announcing his trip. "We do not employ force just for the sake of employing force." Quote:At issue is what occurred on Nov. 19, 2005, after a Marine convoy was allegedly hit by a roadside bomb, killing Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas. An initial inquiry found that 15 civilians were killed in the crossfire of a subsequent Marine firefight with insurgents. In April, the Marine Corps relieved Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani of his command of the 3rd Battalion of the 1st Marine Regiment, the unit involved in the incident. Two of his company commanders were also relieved of command. The 1st Marine Regiment is part of the 1st Marine Division and is based at Camp Pendleton, Calif., just north of San Diego. Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) said last week that there was neither a bomb nor a firefight, and that 24 civilians had been killed "in cold blood." Or you could just Google "Haditha" and get the rest of the story. But, then again, you don't want to know. DO YOU HAVE THE WRITE STUFF?

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The world changes

kjhack - Fri, 2008-8-8 9:06 pm
Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. But one thing is clear, you can't roll back the clock. These are different times. And I don't think it worked as wonderfully as you might think. I'm sure most women wouldn't want to go back to a time when they were treated like property by so called "moral" Godly men. Actually, I think we are a whole lot more "moral" today than we were centuries ago in many respects. As far as sex education goes, it would be better to teach it at home than in the schools. But you still have to properly inform your children about the dangers and responsibility of sex. P.S. This whole idea of not having sex before marriage is just a bad idea in one regard: Unless you sleep with your partner, how will you know if you're sexually compatible?

 
 

kjhack

lmorovan - Fri, 2008-8-8 8:41 pm
I could give some credence to your opinion if you could provide any evidence that the world needed sex education in schools from the dawn of civilization. But the true fact is, there were moral attributes that were taught from father and son and from mother and daughter throughout centuries that have worked wonderfully, without any outside and obtrusive intervention. Morals don't change, societies do and do away with that which has been working fine, just for the sake of doing something. And the whole society is being hurt and damaged by the actions of a few who have the power and means to influence our politicians and Judges, even against the will of the overwhelming majority of the American population. We, the people are losing our power in the hands of domestic enemies that are striving to change this nation to the anarchy and disorder they have in their lives and want to bring down the country with them. If we allow them to do so. Fortunately, the healthy, sound and moral Americans are still the majority and the nation still has a chance to be saved from destruction from the inside. Democracy may not be the best possible system, but it's the best we have, and as long as we hold dear for the voice of the majority, we have a chance. The alternative is tyranny or even worse, anarchy.

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