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The Rising Cost of Healthcare Brings up the Cost of Cars?

posted February 26, 2007 - 10:20am
The Rising Cost of Healthcare Brings up the Cost of Cars?

Could rising costs in healthcare actually bring up the cost of buying a car?!?! Yes, it could, and it already does - at least for cars bought in the U.S. It makes a difference between the cost of a car bought in the United States and one bought in a foreign country, because most other countries have healthcare that is funded through their government. General Motors estimates that its healthcare costs add $1,500 to the price tag of each car. They also claim that healthcare costs have risen for their company, by up to 87% in the last 6 years.
Statistics now show that 1 out of every 7 people in the U.S. now have no insurance. Fourty-seven million Americans have no insurance. There are also rising premiums and lower reimbursements for those who actually do have insurance. The need for affordable healthcare certainly isn't going away. It is projected to account for 20% of all spending by 2015. By 2015, over 50% of all money spent on healthcare is also projected to come from government health plans, such as Medicare, Medicaid and veterans programs.
Needless to say, groups that were once at odds over healthcare, are now at least in agreement that there is a need for broad reform. Both left and right-wing politicians are now in agreement that drastic reform is definitely needed. When you have a corporate giant such as General Motors adding $1,500 to the cost of each car, because of health insurance issues, you know that it is not just a problem for the little people.
Changes are already being made on both corporate and state levels. Massachusetts is experimenting to provide universal health coverage by requiring all residents to buy policies, with subsidies being provided to those too poor to buy their own insurance. Employers with no plans are taxed to cover their employees. California, and twelve other states, are also experimenting with similar plans.
America's Health Insurance Plans, a lobbying group for insurers, joined January with Families USA on a plan to extend health care coverage to all children and the uninsured. Insurance companies are fearful of losing profits, and that is why they harshly denounced the Clinton plan that was being developed and offered around fourteen years ago. Hmmm...
CEO of Walmart and Andy Stern, president of the 1.8 million member Service Employees International Union, have formed an alliance to push for universal coverage. They have also formed an alliance in Better Healthcare together (which includes AT&T, Intel, Kelly Services, and Communications Workers of America). They are raising the question: does tying insurance to employment still make sense? I personally don't think so. What happens to private business owners who run businesses out of their homes? What happens to independent contractors? What happens when someone is in between jobs? We are still paying for bills because there were hospital and doctor's visits while my husband was between jobs. Why should people be paying for hospital and doctor's visits the rest of their lives, and why should older people be forced to make a decision between a healthy meal and their medicine? I shouldn't have to think twice about whether or not I should take a child to the doctor, because of the cost. Something definitely needs to be done, and that is what people are now saying - even at the top, on both sides of the political agendas.



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I think a lot of it has to do with confusion

I think a lot of the health insurance problems have to do with being overwhelmingly confused, and the clinics and some hospitals count on this. My daughters were going to a Pediatric Center for their well-baby and well-child check ups. I was only supposed to pay a $30 copay for each visit. I paid the $30 copay for the last visit, but got a bill from the clinic later on, stating that I still owed them around $40. Well, I went ahead and paid it, but I also quit taking my girls there. I was confused about getting an additional bill, because this clinic is supposedly on the Preferred Provider's List. I talked to someone else about this, and they said that the clinic is trying to get away with charging more than they should for their care. If they are on a Preferred Provider's List, they are not supposed to charge more than the insurance company approves of. I and the girls were out of town for 3 months, and they saw another doctor who was in the Preferred Provider's List. I never got a bill from them. Everything was like it should be, just the $30 copay per a patient, per a visit. This is why I said "sianara" to that clinic. No one in that office was honest enough to tell me, up front, that I would have to pay more than my co-pay. The girls now go to a place that has never sent me additional bills. I always know that I'll only pay $30 for each visit. I also like the doctor better. She doesn't treat my children like just a number. She actually talks to them, and treats them like human beings. I think this is what the main problem is. Publius is right about clinics trying to get away with charging more than they should. What we should do is boycott these places once we find out who they are. Not only should we boycott them, but word of mouth will put them out of business. This is true capitalism at work. Maybe then, we might at least put a dent into the problem. I'm not sure what the policies are on mentioning clinics by name, and I also don't want to get into a lawsuit for defaming these people. What I plan on doing is talking to everyone I run into, locally - warning them not to go to this clinic.

Making money is a problem?

Making money is a problem? Do you work for money? There's nothing wrong with the U.S. system; what's wrong is the government. They impose too many regulations and requirements for insurance companies, hospitals, private clinics, etc., and assume that these places can simply adhere to these requests without increasing prices. It's pretty much the same tactic they use with our income taxes when they raise them. They don't bother to ask whether you can afford a tax increase, they just do it without worrying about the consequences. As far as $5000 MRI's...we all know it doesn't really cost that much, but the clinic will "charge" you that amount knowing that it's really your insurance company "paying" for it. Since everyone is getting all this cheap insurance through they're employers, they have no problem paying a small deductible and letting their carrier pay the rest. This drives up the cost of their insurance and the clinic performing the procedure knows they'll get that money from the insurance provider, so they don't care if it's expensive. Now we have politicians pretty much demanding that employers must provide insurance to their employees, which drives up their own prices and keeps the wages lower than they would otherwise be. This problem is brought on by the demands from politicians, not the demands of the private market. That's why I say government is part of the problem.

Health care increases cost of cars

From Monday's Wall Street Journal: "In a report issued Monday, credit-grading firm Fitch Ratings says health-care costs, as a portion of each vehicle built in the U.S., are set to rise 11% on average this year from 2005 levels for GM and Ford. The punishing increase could heighten urgency surrounding medical expenses, which are said to be Detroit's primary cost disadvantage compared to Asian producers." and "Fitch estimates GM will spend $1,783 in cash health-care expenses per car this year, while Ford is seen dishing out $1,064. GM's costs are up 7% from the $1,660 per car it spent in 2005, while Ford's costs are seen skyrocketing 20% from 2005's $888." Publius says the govt is reponsible for the rising cost of health care; I don't understand what he means. Yes, insurance companies want to make money, and that's the problem with the U.S. system: doctors, insurers, hospitals all need to make money, which increases the cost of health care. As far as I can tell the U.S. is the one of the few major countries in which employers provide health care. I understand that this developed because companies started offering health benefits after WWII as a perk to attract employees. Our system is an anomaly. The rising cost of health care has a number of causes, many of them due to a good thing: innovations in health care means people are living longer, and even people with diseases are living longer... which means they'll need more (and more expensive) care. A few decades ago, if a person had a heart attack, they'd end up recuperating in a hospital (if they survived at all) for a while, then would probably die of another heart attack. Now we have angioplasty, stenting, bypass, etc. Some patients go through several bypass operations. It's easier to diagnose conditions with advanced technology, but also very expensive--a single MRI can cost $5,000. People with diabetes would often go through a series of amputations until they finally died; today diabetes can be controlled and treated for decades.

You're right about these numbers being misleading

I think these numbers can be misleading, too. You're right - there are probably a lot of people on welfare who aren't trying to better themselves. My husband, however, was out of a job temporarily, after working for the Alaska Marine Highway System. They wanted to keep him, but they weren't willing to pay for his airline tickets to and from work. They called two days after he returned home, asking him to come back because they needed him to fill in for someone else who didn't show up. Yet, the airline ticket would be his problem. Hello? (This is a whole new article - about how some government jobs get away with not following government rules). There is a huge airline monopoly in Alaska, where Continental airlines is the main, if not the only, company who provides flights to Alaska. They get away with grossly inflating prices. We were going to move to Alaska, but the housing market is ridiculous up there. You have to pay over $200,000 for a shack. Two hundred thousand dollars buys a fairly nice house in Houston, Texas -which is where we finally ended up settling down. There was just no reasonable incentive to stay with employment through Alaska. Enough about that. In the meantime, we just happened to need emergency medical care in between him leaving this position in Alaska and getting a new position elsewhere. He is now back with a company he's worked 16 years for. The only reason he left his current company in the past was to return to school. You never know who this insurance problem is affecting. I do agree that a lot of people aren't pulling their weight, but my husband is an example of a very hard worker. It makes me wonder how many others are honest workers, hurt by this current insurance problem.

Yes, I am aware that healthcare costs also bring up other prices

Yes, I am aware that healthcare costs also bring up the cost of other items besides cars. I just thought this was an interesting item to start with, because the increase is so much more noticeable than the increase in other smaller items.

Unfortunately, it's not just

Unfortunately, it's not just the price of cars that increases because of health insurance. Any company that provides health coverage to its employees has increased its cost and decreased its profits. So raising the price of their product is needed to maintain the same profit margin. This isn't an evil practice since profits are what keeps businessmen/women in the market. If we were all working for little or no money, why would we work? The same goes for insurance companies. The company will not exist if they cannot make any money, unless it is a government agency of course, then it is funded by taxes. Both parties are coming together on universal coverage and it is very scary to see. Government likes to tell us how unaffordable insurance has become, but they refuse to believe that they are the reason it is so. And they will also give us inflated numbers about how many are not insured. If I am covered by my job for six months, quit working for two weeks and have no coverage, then get a new job that covers me for the rest of the year, I will be one of the "47 million without health insurance" that year. That number also doesn't tell us how many people choose not to have health insurance. I didn't have health coverage until my employer told us it was free and all we had to do was sign a piece of paper to get it. Even then, I would have been better off making more money in my paycheck than having insurance I have not used to this day. The last thing we need is more government involvement in our eveyday lives. If there is one constant that has been proven time and again, it is that the government cannot perform tasks as well as the private market. There is no incentive for better service or a better product since all money is guaranteed and is provided by taxpayers, most of them not even qualified to use the programs. Something does need to be done, but more government interference is not the answer.

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