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God-Given Proof & Insurance that There ~*Is So*~ Such a Thing as an Atheist! Proven by Greek and Roman Mythology

posted July 30, 2008 - 12:22pm
God-Given Proof & Insurance that There ~*Is So*~ Such a Thing as an Atheist! Proven by Greek and Roman Mythology

On an article by a fellow friend-of-Abmox, I started a comment denying the central theme of that article: That there is no such thing as an atheist.

In collecting various links backing up my affirmation that there is such a thing, my browser got overstuffed and had to shut-down. So now I enter my 'comment' here, that my persistence may prosper us all!

The cheif link was to OED, a site at which we word-archeologists begin our big digs.

It pointed out that 'atheist' came from the Greek for "denying a god." With the popularity of monotheism, you might think that means the same thing as "believing in no god"—but it's not!

You'll recall that the Greeks (like the Romans) were famous for having many gods!

The god you believe "hears" public prayers? I deny that god. I believe in the God who listens to your inner heart, who can only be 'with you' if what is in your inner heart matches your words.

So I am an atheist ... AND I am a 'follower' of God (or 'Child-' or 'Disciple-' or 'What Have You-').



Comments

@Uncle~So the Wanting Is Really 'the Supposing'? Dig for That!

Okay, boss ... c.1315, "to assume as the basis of argument," from O.Fr. supposer "to assume," probably a replacement of *suppondre (influenced by O.Fr. poser "put, place"), from L. supponere "put or place under," from sub "under" + ponere "put, place" (research position). Meaning "to admit as possible, to believe to be true" is from 1526. Supposed "believed or thought to exist" is from 1582, often with the -e- pronounced, to distinguish it from the passive p.t. supposed, now common in the sense of "to have a duty or obligation" (1859). Supposition (1410), as a term in logic is from L.L. suppositionem (nom. suppositio) "assumption, hypothesis," infl. by Gk. hypothesis. So to 'want' to give God glory is almost a 'sin' as it assumes that God doesn't already have all the glory! ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of stars like Tori Spelling, Fussin`, Vanessa Montagne & Lena Li--Xombie Plan

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@Uncle-What Do You Mean 'Want' to Be Used?

I ~meant~ 'desire,' because I remember the definition Napoleon Hill found for 'want'---"lack." But I HAVE been feeling a bit under-used--which is prob`ly my fault, as a 'man' needs to "get out there and 'use' himself!" ... lol whatev ... Dug around at OED again: want (v.) c.1200, "to be lacking," from O.N. vanta "to lack, want," earlier *wanaton, from P.Gmc. *wanen, from PIE *we-no-, from base *eue- "to leave, abandon, give out (on?)" (research vain). The meaning "desire, wish for" is first recorded 1706. Wanted "sought by the police" was originally slang, in use by 1812. want (n.) c.1300, "deficiency, shortage," from O.N. vant, neut. of vanr "lacking, deficient;" related to O.E. wanian "to diminish" (research wane). Phrase for want of (e.g. 'I post this here for want of any other comments on this entry.') is recorded from c.1400. Meaning "state of destitution" is recorded from 1340. Newspapers' want ad is recorded from 1897. So to "want" something is to 'suppose you should have it, yet not find it there.' Have you ever heard the phrase "Want it too much"? That's what I hope to keep followers-of-Christ from doing to His Glory---even if they only want it 'to give it to Him!' ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of stars like Tori Spelling, Fussin`, Vanessa Montagne & Lena Li--Xombie Plan

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@myself: But Why Would a Gift Want to Feel 'Used'?

Good question, Uncle MythMan! lol I did some more digging (we did we did)... use (v.) c.1240, from O.Fr. user "use, employ, practice," from V.L. *usare "use," frequentative form of pp. stem of L. uti "to use," in Old L. oeti "use, employ, exercise, perform," of unknown origin. Replaced O.E. brucan (research brook (v.)). Used "second-hand" is recorded from 1595. User is recorded from 1935 in the narcotics sense, 1967 in the computer sense. User-friendly (1977) is said in some sources to have been coined by software designer Harlan Crowder as early as 1972. Verbal phrase used to "formerly did or was" (as in I used to love her) represents a construction attested from 1303, and common from c.1400, but now surviving only in p.t. form. The pronunciation is affected by the t- of to. use (n.) c.1225, from O.Fr. us, from L. usus "use, custom, skill, habit," from pp. stem of uti (research use (v.)). Useful is recorded from 1595; useless is first attested 1593. I think 'used' is one of those 'witch'-words (i.e. positive or negative according to the hearer ... possibly with some creedence to how the speaker meant it, but that doesn't matter without the hearer's understanding). I want to be used by people-of-God; I suppose I might feel a little "under-appreciated" if the people-of-God I know don't allow me to take my most-useful position (mwa-ah-ah-ah-harrr), but I'll get there when I get there! ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of stars like Tori Spelling, Fussin`, Vanessa Montagne & Lena Li--Xombie Plan

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@myself: What Makes that Power a Gift?

I thought about it, dug around Online Etymology Dictionary (and probably thought a little more): gift 1104, from O.N. gift, from P.Gmc. *giftiz (cf. O.Fris. jefte, M.Du. ghifte "gift," Ger. Mitgift "dowry"), from PIE base *ghabh- "to give or receive." O.E. cognate gift meant "bride-price, marriage gift (by the groom), dowry" (O.E. for "giving, gift" was related giefu). Sense of "natural talent" is c.1300. I think of the old '3:16' (... for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life ...). Thinking on that, I see that everything we do is a 'sin' if we expect to get anything in return for it, but the only good things in our lives are gifts (which are not meant to be 'won,' but rather to be used or to be given away just as good as- or better than-we received them. For instance, I think of the old gift horse: The proverbial gift horse was earlier given horse: "No man ought to looke a geuen hors in the mouth." [Heywood, 1546] The modern form perhaps traces to Butler's "Hudibras" (1663), where the tight iambic tetrameter required a shorter phrase: He ne'er consider'd it, as loth To look a Gift-horse in the mouth. ... And (a little) of the white elephant: White elephant (1851) supposedly arose from the practice of the King of Siam of presenting one of the sacred albino elephants to a courtier who had fallen from favor; the gift was a great honor, but the cost of proper upkeep of one was ruinous. ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of stars like Tori Spelling, Fussin`, Vanessa Montagne & Lena Li--Xombie Plan

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Proving Words to the Atheist

This is a war of words, thus learning more about the origin of "word" (the singular form of 'words') will be most-expedient: O.E. word "speech, talk, utterance, word," from P.Gmc. *wurdan (cf. O.S., O.Fris. word, Du. woord, O.H.G., Ger. wort, O.N. orð, Goth. waurd), from PIE *were- "speak, say." The meaning "promise" was in O.E., as was the theological sense. In the plural, the meaning "verbal altercation" (as in to have words with someone) dates from 1462. Wordy is from O.E. wordig "verbose." Wording "choice of words" apparently was coined by Milton (in "Eikonoklastes," 1649). Word processor first recorded 1970. A word to the wise is from L. phrase verbum sapienti satis est "a word to the wise is enough." Word of mouth is recorded from c.1553. I believe 'the power of words' is a gift from God. You don't want to believe that; that's fine ... you can research evolutionary physics to your heart's content (given the time needed) until it's 'reasonable' to your satisfaction. Beyond that, it's God; who exists or not whether I say he doesn't or does. ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of stars like Tori Spelling, Fussin`, Vanessa Montagne & Lena Li--Xombie Plan

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@FreeCracker4Jack: The Wise Atheist is Buddhist

That's literally 'of the awakened-making.' (i.e. the wise one turns on the lights and starts stimulating people/`mself to awareness). The atheist who *isn't* wise really doesn't care (as opposed to Roman Catholics, who pretend not to care but who then go and learn). ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of Friend-Networks like Hi-5 - About SuperBust, Watch Me

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@Eggsovresy: Right; not "I Am for a Reason," Just "I Am"

That's one reason-why I was told the answer to everything when I was in Catholicism-Confirmation: The answer--to every question you could possibly ask me--is ... I don't care ... lol ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of Friend-Networks like Hi-5 - About SuperBust, Watch Me

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The Atheists Tale...

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When Jesus family, -friends

When Jesus family, -friends and -enemies called his attention to something, they were literally saying, 'Work salvation upon! Work salvation upon!' prophesying what he would then come to do!" I already understood that Myth. This is what is so funny to me. It is humorous. It is elementary. I think it is Gods sense of humor when He is making sure what He Promises is Truth. Through the Holy Spirit and the one denying the gods and knowing there is something out there but not these idols, God through Grace is giving this type of atheist what he would get if he lived in society where he would get the Gospel. I am talking of what the old Greek would get also by denying those gods, knowing something else did this not these idols. That atheist of his day got saved by what was to come. The Gospel. Just hadn't gotten their yet. Ya Tov-GOD GOOD!!!!! Our English translation God is Good doesn't do Ya Tov Justice. A facade is a facade. The Democratic Way To Win An Election This is a new one Americans Finger Oil Firms For Gas Runup I'm Making Tea, Black Gold?

@Idlewild: Creation of a New ~Kyo~ ('Universal Sound)

There are words that--when added to a dialogue (or monologue)--cause hearers to tune-in differently. For example: people who hear that I'm a Xombie might disregard me as a moaning neuron-muncher; but if I add that I'm a 'Friend of Abmox,' they're more likely to pay mind to what I say (whether they know 'who' Abmox is or not)! I might start/join a Facebook Group more-readily if it were called "Friends of Abmox" than -if it were called "Xombies." ... signed, Uncle MythMan---Big Fan of Friend-Networks like Hi-5 - About SuperBust, Watch Me

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