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This is for everyone who thinks that racism doesn't exist

posted September 10, 2007 - 2:45pm
This is for everyone who thinks that racism doesn't exist

This news story is truly appalling.


something you may also want to notice is how eloquent the targeted group is.


Website: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2007/07...

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Taken as a whole...

jdubhub - Mon, 2007-10-9 11:28 pm
Taken as a whole, I respect your contributions here. We both have definite views on the race question, but one thing I have learned from my own experience is it's better to speak one's truth, even if it means taking an unpopular stand on a controversial subject. Specifically about the video piece, if I were to make a checklist for a news story about White Guilt and make sure to use code words for what I'd really like to say but would rather not come out and say it, I would come up with something close to what was in the video. If a person with absolutely no understanding of Nova Scotian or Canadian culture were to watch that video piece as it aired, that person would conclude that there are white racist skinheads lurking in the shadows waiting to lynch innocent, unsuspecting blacks just for being black. For all we know, the graffiti (if it was actually by a white person) was an isolated incident in one specific area of NS. Because life does not happen in a vacuum, things must be viewed in what is best for the greater good IMHO. Does this video piece represent what is best for the greater good? Not really. Until we know ALL the facts about what happened, it's not really for us to pass judgement on a group or groups of people based solely on what we viewed. Just my two cents... _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

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See there is the misunderstanding

dreahwrites - Mon, 2007-10-9 9:49 pm
I am being judged by one piece. I am not bringing up problems every chance I get. I bring it up when I am deeply disturbed... and yes, I guess this is a vent... so what. This is not the NY Times (like that really matters). This is one of many sides of me. My views on race are strong... but definitely balanced... causing friction on all sides. I don't discriminate there. ~While we try to teach our children all about life, our children teach us what life is all about~

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An Article or An Editorial

angelskates - Mon, 2007-10-9 9:38 pm
As a journalist I try to be clear about what I am writing. An article reporting a news event should be objective, reporting the known facts of a situation so that people may form their own opinion. An editorial is the appropriate place for a journalist to state their opinion about the facts. I find that it helps me to keep this in mind when writing so that I can communicate more clearly with my readers. I frequently write articles about things I feel strongly about and it is challenging for them to pass the test of objectivity, but I feel that if I cannot report in a factual, objective way, I am not reporting; I am venting. I try to reserve venting for the editorial pieces. Angel PS. As an American Woman I have been told to my face many times by many people that they do not believe gender discrimination exists. You and I both know that is not true, but I do not harp on it or bring it up at every given chance because it does nothing to help the situation, it only aggravates it. Only time will allow the lines of discrimination to blur as more and more children are brought up with world attitudes that differ from those of their parents. IMHO ..... that was an editorial comment Angel

Others mileage may vary...

jdubhub - Mon, 2007-10-9 7:20 pm
You're right, this forum is about sharing interesting articles. You have the right, subject to Xomba's rules, to post whatever you want here. But, anything you post also runs the risk for the poster of sparking a debate/discussion about its content. Your use of buzzwords in your description of the article is the reason I even bothered to respond, since your assumptive damnation of whites in general for the graffiti, even before legal facts have been established, and your defense of all blacks in general for the aforetomentioned damnation, by your use of the comparative word "eloquence", further skewed the bias of the media chop piece toward automatic guilt of all whites for crimes against blacks and for automatic victimhood for blacks in general for white racism. Automatic guilt for whites and automatic victimhood for blacks is the theme of the piece. As a European-American, I've spent enough time on both sides of the debate to understand how the media reports its "facts". _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

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to both of you

dreahwrites - Mon, 2007-10-9 6:46 pm
The purpose of Xomblurbs is to share interesting articles. This story is very interesting. Period. As an African American I have had many people say that racism does not exist... to my face... hence the title. If my reporting this makes a mountain out of a mole hill, then you two are making a canyon out of a ditch. ps. I don't have to look up Tawana Brawley (we are about the same age and from the same area). I knew the first time I heard the story it sounded fishy. There are a bunch of people you can look up too. Also, I hate Sharpton probably as much as you do. Furthermore, I am going to stop here and let you all have the last word on this. It is up to you what side of yourself you choose to show in this public forum. ~While we try to teach our children all about life, our children teach us what life is all about~

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I agree...that news story

Publius - Mon, 2007-10-9 5:43 pm
I agree...that news story was appalling. I am really tired of a few things here. First of all, your title is misleading and perhaps inaccurate. I don't know many people who believe that racism doesn't exist. It exists, just not on such a scale that many people believe (such as, "most people are racist"). And this news story did not present an occurrence of racism. Which leads me to my second point... Apparently, most of the people who cry "racism" don't know the meaning of the word. The writings on these benches and tables did not imply "racism", that was inferred. They are good representations of bigotry and abject ignorance and stupidity. Someone ought to educate the producers of this news segment on proper terminology. What was the point of this news story anyway? To enrage members of the black community that otherwise would never have seen the writings? How many people actually walk around and read the writing on park benches and get offended by blatant acts of ignorance? I'm getting sick of hearing daily news stories about "racism" that does not occur and that does not matter. News producers need to find something else to do with their time. Maybe going back to school could be an option.

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That was not my point at all...

jdubhub - Mon, 2007-10-9 5:51 pm
"I hope the air is good in that hole you have your head stuck in. Personally, I hate the victim mentality just as much as I hate racism, but saying this did not happen because the victims don't count as witnesses is the same as saying OJ did not kill Nicole." What I said and I hoped that you and anyone else reading would understand is that the story only had real relevance in the locality where it happened and really only the people in the immediate vicinity of the park that actually read the graffiti were affected. Police are investigating. Victims are outraged. Etc, etc, etc. What you did by posting it here at Xomba and via Google to the rest of the Internet is make the story something more than it was, given that there were few facts and too much assuming. Like I said before, do you know for a fact that the people responsible for the graffiti were "white racists"? Could they have been some other race trying to stir the pot? Google Tawana Bradley and Crystal Gail Magnum if you don't believe that a little more investigation and a lot less sensationalism is what this country needs when it comes to the race question. Since the police are investigating this as a "hate crime" and you seem to support it by the fact that you are posting this story on Xomba, do you support the perpetrators of the graffiti being charged with a hate crime even if it turns out they were black? If you do not, then "hate crime" laws have no business being on the books. _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

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Blech! Ech! OK

dreahwrites - Mon, 2007-10-9 5:20 pm
"Therefore, I see the news story as something that is unconsequential in the big picture and something that shouldn't even have been publicized." I hope the air is good in that hole you have your head stuck in. Personally, I hate the victim mentality just as much as I hate racism, but saying this did not happen because the victims don't count as witnesses is the same as saying OJ did not kill Nicole. "What I see is the solution is for everyone to accept that people ARE different and different is NOT bad." At least I can relate to something you said. ~While we try to teach our children all about life, our children teach us what life is all about~

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Interesting, but...

jdubhub - Mon, 2007-10-9 4:35 pm
Did anyone actually see who wrote the graffiti? That is the real story. Otherwise all we saw were words written in the park to be sensationalized in the news. It was not a "hate crime" because such things do not really exist. For example, if I murder another human being of a different race or ethnicity, it is obvious I hated that person enough human-to-human to want to end their life, just as if that person were of the same race or ethnicity as me. Somebody looking at the murder from afar has no way of knowing what was in my head when I committed the act. Period. To assume that because the victim was black and I am white, making it a "hate" crime, is to commit a racially prejudiced act against me because you would be making assumptions about me based solely on my race. Furthermore, it is a statistical fact backed by the US Department of Justice crime statistics that black-on-white crime is far, far more prevalent in the US than white-on-black crime, yet there are far fewer investigations for hate crimes perpetrated on white people--even when the criminal acts are accompanied by anti-white racial epithets--and certainly not nearly the same level of publicity. I have come a long way in my own life and understanding of the relationship between the races, from being a White Nationalist to where I am now in wanting for each side to end the nonsense and racial rhetoric to learn to work together for the common good. What I see is the solution is for everyone to accept that people ARE different and different is NOT bad. The idea that everyone is exactly the same at every level is belied by unbiased science and obvious to anyone without an agenda. What we should all be doing is saying "You are different than I am in some ways, but I can learn to work together with you despite those differences." It is only when different races and ethnicities learn to accept differences and work together despite them, as opposed to the current practice of claiming everyone is exactly alike and some are not as successful because of the alleged actions of another group, that society will be able to actually move past race being an issue. Therefore, I see the news story as something that is unconsequential in the big picture and something that shouldn't even have been publicized. For anyone reading this, I have no problem dealing with the issue of race head-on because the only way to deal with the problems facing society today is to have a frank and honest discussion about it, even if that means discussing the good AND bad about everything. _______________________________________________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it doth prosper, none dare call it treason." -Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612

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