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what is true underground music today?

posted December 2, 2006 - 11:37pm
what is true underground music today?

I was curious to hear opinions on what true underground music today means. It seems to be a conflicting subject in many areas. Personally, I grew up on mid-1980s heavy metal, whether it is the 80s hair metal or the thrash metal scenes of that time. The hair metal scene was mostly mainstream, but much of the thrash metal scene catered to a select group of dedicated fans that supported each other through tape trading, fanzines and shows. It seemed somewhat like that with the NY and DC hardcore scenes in the 1980s with Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags, Bad Brains, and Minor Threat/Fugazi. Now much of these bands are thrown around by every kid visiting a Hot Topic store.

I'm interested in hearing people's introduction to music, especially those who were into the older punk/hardcore scenes (especially the UK or older NY scene from the late 1970s to early 80s), thrash metal, death metal from the late 1980s/early 90s, and black metal from the 1980s. I'm also interested in hearing from people into any areas of the indie rock scene, old industrial music, crust punk, grind, and anything else in between.

I ask since I find it hilarious that kids today like to represent things they know nothing about. Especially black metal fans, where they proudly wear shirts of bands with Nazi-esque tendencies, and have no clue about it. Is it simply ignorance, or a lack of information and it's the older generation's fault for not passing the information down?

All opinions are welcome.


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gogol bordello!!!

i've only heard their song "start wearing purple" but i love it. i'm really going to have to check out these guys. hm, there's always going to be an indie scene, all bands just about start out indie. it all boils down to having integrity or not. some bands just play a style of music that is popular and get signed to a major label and sell themselves in commercials. there's nothing wrong w/ joss stone, for instance, but she packages herself like a product. the same is true for a lot of musicians lately. maroon 5 were indie for quite awhile, but once they got money... that's what it really all boils down to. a band isn't just indie b/c the conglomerates haven't come knocking yet, it should be a choice to embrace certain ethics... but those ethics are just giong out the window lately.

Here's some links to

Here's some links to listen Cat Powers "werewolf" http://hype.non-standard.net/artist/cat%20power Devendra Banhart "Little Yellow Spider" http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/gate/archive/2005/04/14/derk.DTL&o=0 The Horrors "Sheena is a Parasite" http://www.myspace.com/thehorrors Gogol Bordello "Bulla Bulla" http://www.blogmusik.net/track,176725,gogol-bordello-bulla-bulla-.html Betty Curse "Do you mind if I cry?" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=33118460 LArrikin Love "Happy as Annie" http://www.myspace.com/larrikinlove This should get you started. --Sue

First proof of cred:

First proof of cred: "Banned in DC" is an awesome Bad Brains song, and Ian Mckie is amazing in his transcendance of time and music genres. He took a lot of slack shifting from Minor threat to Fugazi, but I love both so I appreciate his ballsiness. Brenden Canty was way before his time and majorly hot. I know a fair amount about today's Indie scene but probably not a side you're interested. I like it all. If the lyrics are well written and they know how to play chances are I am going to appreciate it. The DIY or DIE spirit is still very much alive. In Americs you have Filter Magazine, the leading Indie music mag in the country and thanks to the internet we have many bands booking their own shows, making their own music videos, doing their own promotion. The Uk never had the DIY stuff like we do. They didn't have an Ian Mckie leading the way so it's a new phenomenon over there and it's sweeping the nation. They started their own micro festivals: The Great Escape, and Tales of the Jackalope. Both were three day festivals put on by the bands. Impressive huh? We should try that here. The bands finally started booking their own show - imagine that! Clubs started hosting nights for anyone to play....and a new sound was born...kind of. The new movement there is called New Goth staring The Horrors, Betty Curse, and Russel Brand. I Recommend all three, but especially The Horrors which for goth remind me far more of punk at a rave and on downers. Check out: "Sheena is a Parasite" The Flipside of this coin or the reactionary music to new goth is Gypsy Pop. Traditional gypsy folk music amplified or traditions from that music popularized. My favorite is Gogol Bordello, check out "Bulla Bulla" and he reminds me of the guy Morat was trying to immitate because this guy really is from a family line of gypsies. Some of the other bands associated with the movement such as larrikin love and Mystery Jets just sound like crappy American country music mixed with British influences. WAnt to hear the worst song EVER created? Check out "Happy as Annie" It is a mix of red neck country with ...gulp..ska. Oh dear god - this band has managed to mix the two worst genres of music to form the most...ummm...interesting of songs. Just make sure you don't pay for the download, last hing you need is to want your $.99 ontop of your 3 minutes of your life back. Back in the good ole US of A. I unfortunately know very litle about the underground punk movements. I have been keeping myself preoccupied with the New Weird America Movement and the Freak Folk Movement. Both share a couple of artists. Devendra Banhart and Cat Powers are the most familiar names of the Freak Folk Movement while Animal Collective and Iron and Wine. I recommend Devendra banhart's "Little Yello Spider" It's very psychodelic folkie with kind of funny and derranged lyrics. Freak folk and New Weird American are not everyone's cup fo tea. As you can tell from their titles the music iis for the weird and the freaks, but not necessarily the hardcore freaks. I hope this sheds some light. Phew! --Sue

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