When God is all you have...you realize that He is all you need

http://www.iahp.org/Brain-In.205.0.html

I work with their program too.

I think we are too little to understand all, but I'm sure God is here.
Another question is: why we'd like to live longer?
God send us many messages every day: we must listen them, not pray to become something impossible!

I don'think god should get all the credit for somehing that essentially comes from within ourselves. To automatically assign and event percieved as a miracle to god is counterproductive to personal growth and to science.

I do not understand why people that do not completely agree with what is being written about have to barge in try to discredit their belief???

I am finding this ridiculous here.

I mean really! People can write about death, atheism, being gay, making their own religion and people are fine with it.

But once someone writes about God or a miracle then they have to debate and argue that they just can't be right and Christians are so closed minded!!

Talk about closed minded! Just because you do not know God, Do NOT tell me that my God and my Savior do not exist.

I would like you to prove God Almighty DOESN'T exist! LOL!! You can't!

Mr. Scientific Man, did you know that the Scientists and Archeologists have now found bones and wheels from Pharoes army in the earth where the Red Sea was when Moses guided the people with the Miracle of God?? A scientific fact. The things that make you go hmmm. LOL!

Have a Blessed Day in Jesus ~~

Make money writing ~ http://www.ehow.com/make-money-online.aspx?tcid=jun08_ref606

Wow what in the world is going on? haha Bobbi, I know you and I have had our differences, mainly because I'm gay, but I am a true believer in God and the every day miracles that happen. I have had some occurences myself throughout my life and, honestly, I get a little angry too when I hear people say there is no God, no life after death, etc. Just look around people! If we were just creatures, would we have the ability to love? Love is a miracle in itself!

Why should it make you angry if people don't believe as you do? I certainly don't get angry because people have such beliefs.

I look around everyday and see all the beauty in the world. Why do I have to have a belief in "God" and the afterlife to appreciate it?

I'm not sure why I get angry......I just feel very strongly about this just like I do with gay equality issues. They are both personal. My sister died when I was 5. A couple days earlier a neighbor had asked me how she was. I told her she would be an angel in heaven at 4 on Saturday. She died that Saturday at 4. Coincidence? And the gay issue goes much deeper than just being gay. My boyfriend died in Nov 2002. He had been on a respirator for 6 and a half weeks. Finally they felt there was no more they could do. That was a horrible time in my life. I had no rights. His family decided everything. I had taken care of him for years when they weren't around at all. Now you can say we should have done something legal so this wouldn't have happened. I agree....but we were 39! We didn't think like that. My point with that is that I shouldn't have to "get something legal", I should've had my rights....and for the record, I'm the one who wanted to keep him alive a little longer!

I also was kept from the funeral because of all this. Even the biggest homophobe online has to admit that was a bit cruel.

Sorry to hear of your losses, mrbronco, and what you had to go through.

I probably should've saved that stuff for some other time. But thanks...yes it sucked. And I'll try to tie this all into faith now. It took me a good 2 years to get through that mentally and I could've never imagined having feelings for anyone ever again but, here I am, alive, happy, full of wisdom, and know I can love again because it has happened. Problem is we are very far away. Eh, who am I to tell you or anyone there is a God? This has just been my life experience that something saved me each time I needed it and I'm not sure why or who or how.

Now remember...this is coming from a non Bible thumper!

I have not "made" this into anything. I asked the author a simple question - whether the doctors may have just been wrong. Considering the fact that he mentioned that some of the doctors he saw had never heard of the disorder, it is quite a valid question to ask why it is thought to be a miracle from God instead of uninformed opinions from doctors. Furthermore, I have never said that God does not exist. That's an assumption your making - something I already said would be done a few comments ago.

I admit that I cannot prove or disprove the existence of a god (it's all part of being agnostic). But we can prove whether or not God exists as you believe him to be by examining the qualities of his being as interpreted through your religious beliefs. For example, if you say that God is perfect, then we can discuss motivation, imperfection, and free will. If you say that God is just and compassionate, we can argue whether or not he is just and compassionate by observing the happenings in our societies.

About the bones and wheels in the Red Sea...

Did these people never travel by boat? Would that not explain remains at the bottom of a sea?

I'm not attacking your belief in your god - I'm questioning your reasons and evidence for it. There is a huge difference.

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

WoW Publius! Again my comment was not directed at you. It was under Martin123's comment...

The wheels were made of solid gold as in Pharoes army. They also found symbols that stood for representing Pharo and that time frame...

I wonder why you keep thinking that I am directing my comments towards you?? I wonder - Maybe you are being called.

Have a Great Day!

No...I'm not being "called." You did not direct them at anyone in particular at first, then you made the distinction after I was already in the process of responding (which we can see with the posting times for our comments). This is just another example of reason over mysticism.

(See?...things can be explained without a higher power or being. Now go enjoy some time with your kids - I'll still be around to debate with later.)

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

"People can write about death, atheism, being gay, making their own religion and people are fine with it."

Bobbi, it depends on what you mean by being "fine with it." When any of those topics you mentioned are written about on Xomba, they usually spark a large number of comments, reactions, disagreements, etc. I've seen many heated debates here about sexuality (hetero and homo), evolution, life, death, religion or lack thereof, the nature of the universe, global warming, capital punishment, etc. etc. This current discussion about God is no different from any of those other cases.

Non spiritual can not understand spiritual... Why does a gay woman cut her hair short when nature teaches different? Simple. To show lack of respect for the man. For all of you who say I did not or it does not. God knows the intent of the heart. It doesn't matter to me.

You ought to be glad to get such response Bobbi. Obviously a lot of people here have come to some sense of God awareness.

The funny thing is how God uses the arrogance of the non believer to get them in the presence of what they usually would purposely avoid like the plague in the first place.

This is right where you want them Bobbi. Believe in Jesus and though shall be saved. This takes away the sting of death. Death lost. Doesn't matter that buddhist are enlightened or even that there are special disciplines for abominations to nature like homosexuality.

Jesus took away the sting of death. Can a gay person be blessed? Yes. God knows the intent of the heart. Will he have discipline? That is also up to God. Not me. I count on that. I don't have to judge lest I would have to judge myself and I might deserve the electric chair.

This is the simple reason I can have a relaxed mental attitude around Mrbronco while he proofreads my atrocious spelling. That is the impersonal love I am always talking about. It is not based on you the receiver of the act. So top being so arrogant.

God the Father had to break the barrier between unrighteous man and Perfect Righteousness. In step Jesus. God man in the flesh able to sin and able not to sin because of the Holy Spirit. Jesus can look at the individual and understand what we are capable of. Jesus knows Gods Virtue demands Justice. God in His Humility put aside His love for His Son Jesus Christ and judged all the sins of the world. Not guilty. Jesus looks at us God looks at Jesus.

We are not all brothers and sisters in the eyes of God. God the Father does not know unbelievers. He simply knows what the human race is capable of doing and what we will do. He knows us at the time of salvation. Believe in Jesus and thou shall be saved.

non spiritual does not understand spiritual. Through Grace the Holy Spirit allows the unbeliever to understand so they can make a decision.

"Non spiritual can not understand spiritual..."

Reason cannot understand non-reason.

"The funny thing is how God uses the arrogance of the non believer to get them in the presence of what they usually would purposely avoid like the plague in the first place."

I have never avoided this topic. I get tired of it at times because the "believer" is never willing to accept the most basic of logical premises, but it is not something that I have ever avoided "like the plague." And it is not "arrogance" that causes the non-believer to question the premises of the believer - it is the pious mentality of the believer that the non-believer is morally corrupt and/or intellectually deficient that makes them speak up.

"Believe in Jesus and thou shall be saved."

This is the type of contradiction that has survived through the teachings of religion. If we are to believe that God has given us free will, why would we then be compelled to accept something that we don't agree with or believe? A mandate from God to humanity that tells us what we ought to decide in order to be "saved" directly contradicts the notion that we are free to make our own decisions. Forcing man to choose to believe in God, with the penalty of eternal damnation if he doesn't, does not exactly agree with "accepting" Jesus as our savior. It is nothing more than forced compliance and is the complete opposite of willing acceptance...and also free will.

Why would a god, whose being and greatness ought to be known to humanity, demand acceptance of him? Shouldn't it be self-evident to all if God has been revealed to man? Why is it not?

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

with being labeled close minded. I know I'm not. I'm not trying to convince anyone that god doesn't exist, that's a hopeless task and not worth the effort even if you succeed, faith and knowledge are opposites. I simply don't believe there is a God and I'm simply telling you some of the reasons why I don't believe this. I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm also suggesting that there might be other explanations. Jumping to the conclusion that it was god's intervention simply because you cannot explain something just seems to easy, as one is then leaping over a thousand other possible explanations. I'm not trying to discredit anyone.by the way, why do you refer to scientific facts only when it suits your agenda,at the same time you are opposed to me trusting science opver faith. I can not scientifically prove that god doesn't exist,I don't need to, but you seem to want to scientifically prove that he does. Mrs. Science

"Jumping to the conclusion that it was god's intervention simply because you cannot explain something just seems too easy..."

This is one of the faults of faith alone. It would seem that this one absolute is constant within people of faith and their teachings: Ignorance = Proof of God.

If we don't have the answer to something, then it must be the will of God that caused or created it. (But sometimes, even if we later learn the real answer, it is not accepted as legitimate.)

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

"I mean really! People can write about death, atheism, being gay, making their own religion and people are fine with it."

"But once someone writes about God or a miracle then they have to debate and argue that they just can't be right and Christians are so closed minded!!"

I seem to remember quite a closed minded Bobbi in my article about gay marriage. And you most certainly were not "fine with it" and others were not too. That's why the comments were removed and no more shall be allowed. I think you owe me an apology.

The God I believe in would not tolerate the treatment you have thrown my way. You have ignored all my comments here and in your Deanna article. Shame on you.

In order for anyone to try to "convince" anyone else that a god does or does not exist, we must first define what that god is. We can start with a few basic questions: Is this god abstract or concrete? Is it perfect or imperfect?

The problem with this argument is two-fold: One side will conduct itself using reason and empirical evidence - the other side relies only on faith, which requires neither. And one cannot convince the other if the other really believes they have experienced direct communication or maintain a relationship with their god.

Nobody is going to convince anybody else...each must be willing to accept logical conclusions, but believers refuse to question their premises while many non-believers refuse to accept faith over reason. Each will make equally invalid assumptions about the other, such as your (freeindeed's) assumption that non-believers of your faith will try to convince you that God doesn't exist. (I understand that someone said God doesn't exist, but that is not the position of all of us here, or all non-believers of your theology.)

But you never answered my initial questions. What if the doctors were simply wrong? Is it possible that they just gave you an uninformed prognosis since many of them had never heard of the disorder? Why are you so convinced that it was a miracle by God?

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

I like to think of God as just a conceptualization of some sense most of us have of a sense of order or meaning to this crazy world. Somewhere along the line, I just lost the desire to put a label on it. The word God just doesn't have a meaning to me, anymore.

↑ Grab this Headline Animator

Join Xomba

kjhack...

So you are along the lines that God as a concept is more reasonable than God as concrete?

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

There's no other way I can look at it. Nobody can prove their particular God exists, anyway -- it's all belief and faith. That's fine in my book, but it's not necessary for me.

The doctors could have been wrong about the diagnosis but xrays that my grandson had on his arms when he was 11 months old showed that he had a disorder known as Radial Ulnar Stinistosis which in "scientific terms" means that his elbows were dislocated at the joints a defect that he was born with. when he was 15 months old they took new xrays of his arms which revealed that his elbows were no longer dislocated. This is something that medical science says can only be fixed by surgery, which he never had. Both sets of xrays were evaluated by specialist in 2 different hospitals.

Faith is the evidence of things hoped for, the substance of things not seen. Is it because you can't see God that you don't have faith?

You don't see the the cow that your meat came from yet you have faith that it is not contaminated.

You don't see the pharmacist mix your medication yet you take it having faith that it's the right one.

You don't see the cook prepare your food in a restaurant yet you have faith that it's o.k to eat. (you have no idea what he did with your food in the kitchen)

It is sad that many of you can put your faith in fallen humanity but yet find it hard to believe in God.

"Is it because you can't see God that you don't have faith?"

No. It is because I use reason to draw conclusions about what we know and what we don't know. We don't know whether a god exists or not. We only have religious beliefs that try to explain what such a god might be, or what that god is. But the senses are important when finding truth, so I will give you credit for recognizing that. Without our five senses we could not understand the world the way we do. These senses help us to understand our surroundings, to establish basic truths, and to survive. From these truths we can create logical proofs, maxims, syllogisms...and we can use our ability to reason to expand our knowledge and understanding and to determine right from wrong, values and virtues, facts and contradictions, and so on.

But yes...seeing a god would probably go a long way for most people.

"You don't see the cow that your meat came from yet you have faith that it is not contaminated."

No. I willingly accept that the meat is not contaminated because we have regulations that help prevent it. Do I ever know that 100% of the meat I consume is free of contaminants? No, I do not. But that's a risk I'm willing to take considering the fact that getting some sort of sickness from the meat I consume is pretty rare. I do not see healthy cows in the kitchen when I eat a steak, but I know that cows do exist...there's plenty of evidence of that.

"You don't see the pharmacist mix your medication yet you take it having faith that it's the right one."

Yes, I do. I know that the pharmacist that gives me my medication will give me the right one because that's his job and all of my previous experiences with that pharmacist have never lead to receiving the wrong medication. I have no reason to doubt his expertise until I am actually given the wrong medication. But I know the pharmacist exists and I know the medication exists, and I know that none of my medications have ever been the wrong ones. Until that mistake is made, I will trust that my pharmacist is competent.

"You don't see the cook prepare your food in a restaurant yet you have faith that it's o.k to eat. (you have no idea what he did with your food in the kitchen)"

I'm not really sure where you're going with these. I know that the cook exists, the food exists, the server exists, I exist...and I eat the food assuming that nothing has been done to it except what the menu says is done to it.

What does any of this have to do with believing in something that has never been recognized by me with any of my senses or believing in qualities of this being that have been contradicted by the writings of its followers? Why is it "sad" that some people use their ability to recognize what is, then use that knowledge to formulate premises about what we are not sure of?

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

Whether you believe or not God will still exist. He does not need you to believe to exist.

I am respectfully going to read your articles to get a better understanding of where your coming from. I ask that you also read mine www.isthisgodreal.blogspot.com.

Thanks for all of your input.

Bobbi...are you saying I'm one of the "foolish"? Because I don't necessarily agree with the author's perception of a miracle?

*If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

I see miracles like this quite a lot through my church. I have seen xrays of breaks in bones and then the next day completely healed.

I know miracles happen like this - I have had my own miracles.

A person is very closed minded if they do not think that God can heal a little boy. It is so easy to just write it off as the Doctors being wrong. I don't buy that - I have seen healings too many times. I am an intercessor and God's healing and miracles are as alive today as they were when Jesus was raising His friend from death.

This site is so debate driven and no one is going to end up "right."

I have better things to do than debate with people. I love talking or writing about Christ, but I will not do it here. There is no reason to. Some people, and I did not say you, are just too closed minded to Christianity. Everything else is OK, but not loving and believing in Jesus (which means His principles and tangible presence.)

I am amazed with they way The Lord has touch my heart and my life. I did not believe in God and argued that He was a myth and fairy tale to anyone who brought Him up.

He had to speak to my heart BEFORE I could believe. We do not search Him unless He calls us.

Make money writing ~ http://www.ehow.com/make-money-online.aspx?tcid=jun08_ref606

I am sorry for the faithless that came and posted comments, trying to make your story less than it is!

Was this article only for the "flock?" I thought it was open for comment by all. The author is stating his beliefs, and that is great. Are others who don't share the views being expressed not welcome?

As long as we all respect each others' ideas, what is the problem?

Well then I should be able to state that also. : ) I am going to spend some time with my children now.

Have a Wonderful and Blessed Day ~~
Bobbi~

But you have to admit, your comments were a little less tolerant of my perspective than mine were of yours.

Have a great day with your kids. :)

Non spiritual can not understand Spiritual.

This is exactly what I mean kjhack. Tolerance? Tolerance is arrogant. It is a principle based on the individual receiving the tolerance. That means you are telling Bobbi to PUT UP WITH YOU. See the emphasis is on you. This is human viewpoint.

It gives the individuals the excuse to do what they please. And like the liberals kids in line at the bank running in between the felt rail ropes.

I have to put up with them. Now we are spiritual. The emphasis is on I. I put up with the little ones running around my feet and in between the felt ropes for two reasons.

I like the little individuals running around my feet. It lets everyone know where they are, and I understand liberal parents discipline a whole different way than traditional spankings, they don't. I know that. I understand that and I actually like the little kids. I don't blame them. So I have a relaxed mental attitude about the situation. It is based on me. Not you. Impersonal Love is a problem solving device that will cause peace on earth. Not only Gods peace, Peace on earth.

Simply put God looks at Jesus, Jesus looks at us. NOT with tolerance. But, because He understands what we can and can not do. This actually gives Jesus the ability to love us. He saves us because of who and what He is. Not who and what we are. He did not tolerate those tax collectors in His fathers house did He? Tolerance is not the issue and stems from arrogance. Simple as that.

The ten commandments weren't only sent with Moses for us to live by. They were also sent to show us what we are not capable of doing. That is why the human race needed and needs Jesus.

Right now tolerance is giving license for some to run a muck.

This is exactly what I mean kjhack. Tolerance? Tolerance is arrogant. It is a principle based on the individual receiving the tolerance. That means you are telling Bobbi to PUT UP WITH YOU. See the emphasis is on you. This is human viewpoint.

Tolerance is necessary if you're going to openly exchange opinions on a subject. I suppose I could be like you and vent my anger in that special manner that you have, but that's not my style.

I don't really see where any comments I've made here are particularly difficult to "put up with." Why are so many Christians offended by people lack faith and a belief in God? Hang on, I may have an answer for you on that one.

I've encountered quite a number of really hostile theists over the past few years -- some were just downright nasty people. I've come to the conclusion that the reason they were so belligerent and testy was because deep down their faith was weak. When confronted with an opposing view, they begin to get uncomfortable with themselves, and out comes a torrent of hostility. If they were comfortable with their faith, I doubt they would behave in this manner.

As far as your ridiculous notion that "liberals" are responsible for all the ill mannered children in the world, that's just a load of BS. Being a good disciplinarian has nothing to do with whether you're a conservative or a liberal. It comes from being a responsible, loving, educated parent.

↑ Grab this Headline Animator

Join Xomba

Subjectivity kjhack. The emphasis on you has nothing to do with you personally. I knew you wouldn't understand. Again the emphasis is on I. I can put up with you is not based on the one being tolerated. In this case, you tolerating me and my reply. It is about how much understanding you have toward me. Or why I would make such a statement.

I know why you will stick up for parents who have liberal voting tendencies. Still doesn't change the fact the jails are having a booming business and getting bigger.

While the liberal is busy being a good disciplinarian and reasoning with there child. The liberal politicians who support this no corporal punishment for the kids movement are laughing at you. These have polled everything else and the fact is if you don't discipline your children the state will later. Tools like spankings a slapped face, a knuckled head swift kick in the butt, teach a child some things actually hurt and is beyond reasoning. Some absolutes are not up for discussion. Don't rob a bank, Don't steal a cookie, it hurts.

But to blame it all on lack of old fashioned discipline is quite absurd. I'm not against a swap to the rump, etc. But to conclude that anyone who raises their children without resorting to it will have unruly, undisciplined children that will commit anti-social and criminal acts is ridiculous.

We are a violent society and our prisons are a testament to that fact. One of the primary ways violent behavior is passed from one generation to the next is being subjected to physical abuse as a child. How does that figure into your theory?

↑ Grab this Headline Animator

Join Xomba

hey why don't you guys write an xombbyte on the subject and stop commenting each other. Battle this where others can see it it would be more profitanle for both of you and maybe you will get a referee in the ring.

Whatever is going on between you two it goes way beyond my article.

Where is written that comments can't digress somewhat from the original topic?

Maybe you have a point, but I think it's a little presumptuous of you to be dictating what conversations should or should not take place on your Xombyte.

↑ Grab this Headline Animator

Join Xomba

i apologize. knock you socks off....

All I was trying to say is that to write about something that you are so passionate about in someones comment section is a waste of useful energy. maybe you could elaborate on the topic and write an article where more people can see it. The subject that you were discussing is a hot topic and one that would get many readers if posted.

I meant no ill will. I just hate to see so much useful energy wasted.

You know KJHack,

That is a very insightful observation. And I believe you have hit the proverbial nail upon the head.

Talking the talk doesn't always mean walking the walk. If you are new in Christ, and in your knowledge and practice there of, you are ill equipped to be a representative for Christianity.

I am no finished work myself. I have only been a Christian for 5-6yrs now. Learning is slow and practicing the precepts is even slower. Lots of people just slap a Christian bumper sticker on their car and pop up on most Sundays but. . .

Going in to a church makes one about as Christian as going in to a garage makes one a mechanic. . .

FreeCracker4Jack
Would you like to earn money writing similar articles?
CLICK ME!

Read more great articles: http://www.xomba.com/xombyte/free_cracker_4_jack?p

Yes; for the problems you don't know who to go to for solution.

Uncle MythMan---His Mission? http://www.xomba.com/the_new_mythman_plan -How You Can Join Him in It? http://linkbrander.com/go/65240 http://linkbrander.com/go/65241 http://linkbrander.com/go/65242 -P.S. HotGirl33705 is Heavenly (NO SIG. HTML!)