yet you have failed again to catch my drift. I'll reply as simple as possible. 1. the reason why we have the olympics is to promote world peace, and unite as a one world attitute. 2. even if it is not IMPORTANT the word "competition" results in a winner and a loser. 3. my point is it does not matter which country is ranked 1 but, however the US claims that they have won, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M EVEN POSTING MY VIEWS CAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE. 4."Why do they write that? Because the Olympic charter states that the games are between athletes, not countries (just as SEO previously mentioned). So all of you that insist on making the stupid argument that the total amount of gold medals determines the "winning" Olympic country" exactly.. so why does the US media post false information? (they are not ranked 1) 5. I'm Korean, born and raised in Hong Kong, neither country claimed they won the olympics. so what does it matter where my country placed? the argument is the fact that US did not win or ranked first. so with my logic I'm trying to prove my point, nothing to do with where my country placed, so I don't suck, yet you pretty much sucked in getting my point. 1..2..3...4...5..please read.. hope it's clear.

why even bother give medals??? gold, silver and bronze have different VALUES. IF NOT why not just have 3 winners (three gold) with no 2nd(silver) 3rd (bronze). and we do want to judge the competitions that way because IT IS LEGITIMATE. ANYWAYS...its official to the world China did win the Olympics (not saying its important) however only the US believes other wise. which is really hilarious....

i never said those who saw it on tv saw it live and real - i clearly mentioned digitalised firework, i said those who saw it in beijing saw it live and real i feel like i am before a war tribunal now! My writings here My profile here

information week to quote you "Some of the fireworks seen in television (read television) coverage of the opening ceremony of the 2008 Olympics games in Beijing were created digitally, according to a report in The Beijing Times." cnn -- "Beijing organizing committee spokesman Wang Wei said. "On the day of the ceremony there were actual footprints of fireworks from the south to the north of the city." and this is what i wrote "the firework scene was not fake, just a portion of the telecast was digitalised since it would apparently have been dangerous for cameras to track the real firework footprints. So those who saw it in beijing saw it live and real" its clear to me - and its just going around in circles! My writings here My profile here

""Beijing organizing committee spokesman Wang Wei said. "On the day of the ceremony there were actual footprints of fireworks from the south to the north of the city." "On the day of the ceremony"? Note that he didn't say the fireworks took place *during* the ceremony. Maybe they filmed it that day? To me, that's FAKE... filming something at one time and inserting it digitally into a live presentation to pretend that it's taking place live. From an article in Information Week: "Some of the fireworks seen in television coverage of the opening ceremony of the 2008 Olympics games in Beijing were created digitally, according to a report in The Beijing Times." "...a digital effects team spent almost a year preparing a computerized version of the 55-second footstep sequence, which was inserted into the live video feed." "Because one organization is responsible for filming the Olympics -- Beijing Olympic Broadcasting -- foreign TV networks had no choice but to accept the altered video, Sky News said." The footstep sequence was made to appear it was taking place live, when in fact it was filmed fireworks combined with digital effects. That sounds fake to me. LINK HERE: http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/TV_theater/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210002310