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Who Won The Olympics - The United States or China?

posted August 24, 2008 - 3:16pm
Who Won The Olympics - The United States or China?

The 2008 Beijing Olympic Games is over. Only the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games Closing Ceremony is left. So that leads to the question of which country won the Olympic Games this year. Would that be the United States with the most medals won? The United States won 110 medals. China won 100 medals. Or would that be China as China won the most gold medals? China won 51 gold medals whereas the United States won only 36 gold medals. I would say that the United States won. Wouldn't you want to count the most number of medals won instead of just who won the most gold medals?


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Yeah.. No.

How about we take off 5 points per underage athlete (which makes the total US 220 - China 198 as far as I know). Also, why are you supporting china, a communist and cheating excuses for a country? You can't be from their, this site would probably be blocked. USA & free speech wins.

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yet you have failed again

yet you have failed again to catch my drift. I'll reply as simple as possible. 1. the reason why we have the olympics is to promote world peace, and unite as a one world attitute. 2. even if it is not IMPORTANT the word "competition" results in a winner and a loser. 3. my point is it does not matter which country is ranked 1 but, however the US claims that they have won, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M EVEN POSTING MY VIEWS CAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE. 4."Why do they write that? Because the Olympic charter states that the games are between athletes, not countries (just as SEO previously mentioned). So all of you that insist on making the stupid argument that the total amount of gold medals determines the "winning" Olympic country" exactly.. so why does the US media post false information? (they are not ranked 1) 5. I'm Korean, born and raised in Hong Kong, neither country claimed they won the olympics. so what does it matter where my country placed? the argument is the fact that US did not win or ranked first. so with my logic I'm trying to prove my point, nothing to do with where my country placed, so I don't suck, yet you pretty much sucked in getting my point. 1..2..3...4...5..please read.. hope it's clear.

Actually, what is stupid is

Actually, what is stupid is the notion that there is a "winner" of the Olympics. That's not what the games are about and there is no official "winner" proclaimed by the IOC. In fact, there is a disclaimer at the bottom of their medal table that reads: "The I.O.C. does not recognize global ranking per country; the medal tallies are displayed for information only." Why do they write that? Because the Olympic charter states that the games are between athletes, not countries (just as SEO previously mentioned). So all of you that insist on making the stupid argument that the total amount of gold medals determines the "winning" Olympic country, go ahead and continue missing the point of the games. But if you insist on making the point about which country "won" or "lost," why don't you tell us where your country placed in the unofficial non-standings. (Unless you're from the U.S. or China, you pretty much sucked according to your own logic. Better luck next games.) *If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

stupid

why even bother give medals??? gold, silver and bronze have different VALUES. IF NOT why not just have 3 winners (three gold) with no 2nd(silver) 3rd (bronze). and we do want to judge the competitions that way because IT IS LEGITIMATE. ANYWAYS...its official to the world China did win the Olympics (not saying its important) however only the US believes other wise. which is really hilarious....

So

according to your logic, if someone wanted to "judge" the Olympics, then the "winner" is the United States with the most medals and not China with the most gold medals. What I've been saying all along :)

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publius

i never said those who saw it on tv saw it live and real - i clearly mentioned digitalised firework, i said those who saw it in beijing saw it live and real i feel like i am before a war tribunal now! My writings here My profile here

FIBA's decision didn't take place in a vacuum

The point I made was both the timing and the fact that other teams in the world were achieving parity with the U.S. If this was just about letting us use professionals "like everyone else", then why wait until 1989 AFTER Team USA lost to the hated Soviets and won the bronze? Why not 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972 (especially after that debacle), 1976, 1980, or 1984? The timing of the FIBA decision is suspect. Even Mark Cuban agrees. DO YOU HAVE THE WRITE STUFF?

fireworks...sigh

information week to quote you "Some of the fireworks seen in television (read television) coverage of the opening ceremony of the 2008 Olympics games in Beijing were created digitally, according to a report in The Beijing Times." cnn -- "Beijing organizing committee spokesman Wang Wei said. "On the day of the ceremony there were actual footprints of fireworks from the south to the north of the city." and this is what i wrote "the firework scene was not fake, just a portion of the telecast was digitalised since it would apparently have been dangerous for cameras to track the real firework footprints. So those who saw it in beijing saw it live and real" its clear to me - and its just going around in circles! My writings here My profile here

Also from the CNN

Also from the CNN link: "Beijing organizers confirmed Tuesday that some of the fireworks display featured prerecorded footage." And this: "Though the footprint-shaped fireworks were real, some of the footage shown to television viewers around the world and on giant screens inside the 'Bird's Nest' stadium featured a computer-generated three-dimensional image." And this: "'It was confirmed that previously recorded footage was provided to the broadcasters for convenience and theatrical effects -- as in many other big events,' Beijing organizing committee spokesman Wang Wei said." And this: "'However, because of the poor visibility of the night, some previously recorded footage may have been used.'" And this: "'We did our best to create a rendering that would look like the shot was taken live,' company spokesman Lei Ming told the Beijing Times. 'Most people could not tell the difference.'" Oh, hell...the entire article you linked to says what we saw on television wasn't the live footage. I don't think it can get much clearer than that. It's like arguing with a two year-old. *If you're interested in reading my articles, Click Here.

This might be clearer

""Beijing organizing committee spokesman Wang Wei said. "On the day of the ceremony there were actual footprints of fireworks from the south to the north of the city." "On the day of the ceremony"? Note that he didn't say the fireworks took place *during* the ceremony. Maybe they filmed it that day? To me, that's FAKE... filming something at one time and inserting it digitally into a live presentation to pretend that it's taking place live. From an article in Information Week: "Some of the fireworks seen in television coverage of the opening ceremony of the 2008 Olympics games in Beijing were created digitally, according to a report in The Beijing Times." "...a digital effects team spent almost a year preparing a computerized version of the 55-second footstep sequence, which was inserted into the live video feed." "Because one organization is responsible for filming the Olympics -- Beijing Olympic Broadcasting -- foreign TV networks had no choice but to accept the altered video, Sky News said." The footstep sequence was made to appear it was taking place live, when in fact it was filmed fireworks combined with digital effects. That sounds fake to me. LINK HERE: http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/TV_theater/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210002310

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