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Why I'm Thankful I Was Not Raised in a Devoutly Religious Household

posted July 6, 2008 - 4:28pm
Why I'm Thankful I Was Not Raised in a Devoutly Religious Household

When my father was a young man recovering from minor heart surgery, he had an epiphany (for want of a less religious term) of sorts. A hospital affiliated minister came around to his room and engaged him in a discussion about God. Somewhere during the discussion, my father indicated that he did not need The Bible, or any other organized belief system, to get closer to God. He stated that he was perfectly capable of discovering God on his own. This didn't set well with the minister, of course. After all, he was there to prey upon the vulnerability of my father in his physically and mentally weakened state in hopes of bringing another sheep into the fold. The minister's reply was one of pity and scorn. "Well, I feel sorry for you," he said. At that moment, my father developed a deep disdain for organized religion.

While my father was a lifetime believer in God, it was always on his terms. Never do I remember him imposing his beliefs on me as I grew up. Yes, he shared his beliefs with me, but he did not impose them upon any of his children -- nor did my mother. Both believed that the deciding a spiritual path is better left to adulthood. Yes, they shared their thoughts on God and the after life, but never indoctrinated us. That, I feel, is a huge mistake. Strict religious upbringings can really do a number on your head. It can take years to overcome, if one ever fully does, the fear, repression, and the negative connotations religion superimposes on sexuality. For those who awaken to a freer mindset, it can be a lengthy journey.

I remember having a conversation with a pastor some years ago who pointed out that he had encountered many atheists who reached out to God on their death beds. After pondering that for quite some time, I reasoned that it many cases it can be explained by that old fear of "eternal hellfire" that never completely left the consciousness. It can rear its ugly head at those weakened moments, just as the small minded minister came to my father's bedside to sell his twisted theology, then attempted shame him with pity. It's all about control. Why else would the authors of the Bible have concocted such an odious fate as hell for those who refuse to accept their doctrine? I can't even remember the number of people have confessed to me, in so many words, that they are pretty much just covering their asses by buying into such a ludicrous concept.

What if they're right? Can I take that chance?

That's a pretty poor excuse for adopting a belief system, in my mind. I'm lucky that at no point in my life did the hell story ever take root and pervert my sense of logic and rationality. It helped that I was raised without any attempt to tattoo my brain with such nonsense.

Then there are those who are merely card carrying members of a religious faith. My grandmother was a case in point: Every Sunday she dragged my grandfather off to the Methodist Church to perform the weekly ritual of being seen as a "good church going Christian." It was all for show, mostly. I do know my grandfather later stated that he never really believed in God, nor the after life. Yet he was always an person who loved life, and lived life to the fullest. Not so my grandmother. She was one of the most negative people I've ever met in my life. Being around her could suck the life out you faster than a car wash vacuum hose sucks the debris from the floor of a minivan. They were complete opposites. Still, my grandfather was willing to go along with the farce of keeping up appearances in their little rural community for his wife. I've always found that rather sad.

Yes, I am thankful I never had too arduous a task of deprogramming myself as I grew into adulthood. Thankfully, they taught me right from wrong without the burden of religious indoctrination -- and they instilled in me the importance of an open mind. Were they the perfect parents? Nahhh, but there is no such animal. As I grow older, I become more of a spiritual person.But God just never figured into it. I keep my eyes open for life's truths, but I never search for them. I've found that the more you willfully search for "truth", the more likely it whatever you find will be filtered through a preconceived notion of it. And usually at the base of those notions is a lifetime of religious brainwashing.

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The Old Testament Belongs with the Old Men

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The future is ours to see

The future is ours to see Que sera sera. I read the end of the book. It has a happpy ending. Mythman your statements, you are giving the Gospel. "But knowing that 'truth' (or 'cooperative wish' ... whatever) will make you more-ready when its effects come to pass."

Que sera, sera

So we'll all mind our own business, the she-gods and me, and whatever will be, will be.

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"Division is what keeps us

"Division is what keeps us in constant conflict with each other" Are you talking about the double mindedness of the secular? "-- and religion is one of the keys ways that is achieved." True. There will be wars and rumors of wars. The word of God is not out their to tickle the ears and be nice...In fact the ten commandments are not here to tell us what and how to live. They are here to let us know what we are not capable of doing. I will not explain this I am writing to you this time...I give it to you and you of your own volition to look up and try to figure it out, or you can keep tickling each other's ears with goodness statements of oneness, twinkling of stars and life is short so be happy ideas. Saul was told by God to kill all of the Malikites. The Malikites are the Palestinian people right now. They fight Israel to this day. Saul did not obey. He spared the King and the livestock. Abraham and his sons Isaac and Ishmael, Isaac and Ishmael still fight to this day. These are the Jewish people and the Muslim people. Sodom and Gomorrah. God only spared Lot and his family because he was Abraham's brother. Lot's daughters, there were two of them, got him drunk and had sex with their father to keep his seed going. His seed still fights Israel today. Moabites and Malakites. Palestinian people. The day Moses came off of the mountain with the ten commandments. The people were worshipping Baal the idle of the day. Moses called to arms and brother killed brother and three thousand people died that day. But there were no more idle worshippers. There are more examples of what our God will do to preserve Nations and control history. Here is one more. Alexander the great conquered the known world. In doing so the people were allowed to keep their own customs and beliefs but were made only to speak corne' Greek to show they were now Greek. Enabling the new testament to be written in one language. Spiritual can not understand spiritual. Believe in Jesus and though shall be saved. I will explain this. We are born dichotomous meaning body and soul. At the time of salvation we become trichotomous, body soul and spirit. Spiritual understands spiritual.

You Don't Have to 'Know She Exists' for Her to Exist Anyway

That's something Buddhism teaches: though the great beings want great things to happen for you, they will go how they go an will be thus when they do be. But knowing that 'truth' (or 'cooperative wish' ... whatever) will make you more-ready when its effects come to pass. Uncle MythMan---His Mission? http://www.xomba.com/the_new_mythman_plan -How You Can Join Him in It? http://linkbrander.com/go/65240 http://linkbrander.com/go/65241 http://linkbrander.com/go/65242 -P.S. HotGirl33705 is Heavenly (NO SIG. HTML!)

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And Thus Humans Will Be Gods

after all, they created us who created them. (Grammar-Pantses ... Attack! lol) Uncle MythMan---His Mission? http://www.xomba.com/the_new_mythman_plan -How You Can Join Him in It? http://linkbrander.com/go/65240 http://linkbrander.com/go/65241 http://linkbrander.com/go/65242 -P.S. HotGirl33705 is Heavenly (NO SIG. HTML!)

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But the Awareness of Possible-Doom Will Keep Them 'Nice'

Keep the children aware that their minds are FREE, yes; but explain to them the FREEdom doesn't make them right or -wrong! Uncle MythMan---His Mission? http://www.xomba.com/the_new_mythman_plan -How You Can Join Him in It? http://linkbrander.com/go/65240 http://linkbrander.com/go/65241 http://linkbrander.com/go/65242 -P.S. HotGirl33705 is Heavenly (NO SIG. HTML!)

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Fear of Lordy: Honor or Afraidness

My understanding is that 'to fear' means "to hold in respect due to an expected outcome in reciprication (or 'reciprocity' ... words ...)." When I was young, I remember 'being good' all day IN ORDER TO AVOID THE WHIPPING WHEN DADDY GOT HOME. Now I know that it was good to be good whether it was to avoid that badness or to simply get along, but it WAS fear of daddy's belt that kept me good! Would the goodness of 'daddy smiling upon me' have been as good if there weren't the badness of 'unhappy daddy's wrath'? Maybe, but there it was ... Uncle MythMan---His Mission? http://www.xomba.com/the_new_mythman_plan -How You Can Join Him in It? http://linkbrander.com/go/65240 http://linkbrander.com/go/65241 http://linkbrander.com/go/65242 -P.S. HotGirl33705 is Heavenly (NO SIG. HTML!)

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But Religious Leaders Forego Unity for 'Set-ness'

And no, they don't necessarily forego -their own- unity, but they see no harm in shunning anyone else--keeping them from achieving unity--it if that someone else is not "set" right. Uncle MythMan---His Mission? http://www.xomba.com/the_new_mythman_plan -How You Can Join Him in It? http://linkbrander.com/go/65240 http://linkbrander.com/go/65241 http://linkbrander.com/go/65242 -P.S. HotGirl33705 is Heavenly (NO SIG. HTML!)

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life is short--don't waste it on after-death worries

My elderly mother, who's in a nursing home with cancer, gets visited periodically by the clergy and always tells them politely, thanks but no thanks, I'm not religious. She went to Catholic school as a kid but somewhere along the line decided religion wasn't for her, although she did make an effort to get me a basic Catholic education (I got baptized, communioned, and confirmed but, as with her, it didn't "take".) I don't think religious piety has anything to do with ethics or morality, or happiness, for that matter. We've all known religious types who are mean, nasty people, and atheists who wouldn't hurt a fly. I long ago settled on agnosticism. I'm not closing the door on the possibilities, but I have more important things to do in my life than worry about whether or not "God" exists or if she approves of me.

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