Why Isn't George Bush and Dick Cheney Being Impeached????


Why Isn't George Bush and Dick Cheney Being Impeached????

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I keep wondering why President Bush and Dick Cheney are not being impeached. Right now there is a motion in the House Judiciary Commitee to impeach Dick Cheney, but nothing is being done about it. I keep wondering why. The House Judiciary Commitee keeps coming up with these bogus excuses like we have too much to do or we don't have enough votes. All the while soldiers are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. CIA is torturing prisoners. Our ecomony is going down the tubes.

The congress is spineless to stand up to Bush and Cheney. Nancy Polosi took impeachment off the table. Why?? We elected a Democratic majority in 2006 to stop the occupation in Iraq.
Instead of tabling the motion, they just add stuff to the bill knowing it will be vetoed. Then they end up giving in to this president with a low approval rating. It's very frustrating to a majority of our citizens, including me.

The Bush Administration has been caught illegally wire tapping citizens before the 9/11 attacks. Trying to get immumity to those companies involved. Approve torture and call it enhanced interrogation methods so those who are not paying attention will think it is ok. Trying to make us think that Iraq had something to do with the 9/11 attacks as an excuse so he can take over their oil and make his oil buddies and other companies connected with the occupation very wealthy. The Iraq occupation is not about security, its just an excuse for taking control of Iraqi oil for profits.

Day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year these thugs keep getting away with murder while some of our citizens are put in prison for years for way less. Maybe it will end up like what happened to Nazi criminals. After many years these criminals were tried and convicted. I hope not.

I love my country but don't what's being done to it. I am not going to feed into the propaganda that if I'm not with the government I would be labled as a terrorist or some one who goes along with the terrorists. In my opinion the Bush Administration are the terrorists. Turning our country into a dictatorship. Trashing our constitution. Ignoring our rights of freedom of speech. Making our citizens afraid to exercise their constitional right to critize the government. Intimidating or paying off the corporate owned media for not reporting illegal activities of this administration. Wanting to testify to congress without being under oath and with no transcript. Using executive privelege as an excuse not to have to testify before congress when subpoenaed. Bush keeps saying that he cares for our citizens and our country, but keeps vetoing bills that will help the citizens and our country. Then saying the congress is spending too much money. Bush says he supports the troops but vetoes bills that does support the troops. The list goes on and on. Used the 9/11 tragedy as an excuse to take away our rights and liberties under the guise of national security. Outsourcing our job to other countries causing thousands of people to get layed off. Privatizing government agencies. The list keeps getting bigger everyday.

I'm just an angry and frustrated citizen of this country. I have never seen nothing like what the Bush Administration has done too this country. It's going to takes years for this country to get itself back together and be the country it once was. I feel helpless to do anything about it. It won't do any good to write or call congressmen. They are only going vote the way they want. I can't protest in the street. I could get put in jail for exerting my constitutional right. It all doesn't make sense. It just seems that congress and the Bush Administration have just lost their minds.





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Submitted by wHATUP on Thu, 2008-05-22 09:44.

Impeachment is a very hard process to undertake. No president or vice president has ever been impeached. Andrew Johnson came the closest - missed impeachment by 1 vote. Consider that in that case Johnson basically told Congress to go to hell. Congress and the Supreme Court had agreed with the Cherokee(?) Nation that neither the US government nor private citizens had the right to stake claims on Cherokee Reservations (gold had been found on the reservations). Johnson gave everyone the middle finger and took their land anyway and let white settlers do the same. Again Johnson was not impeached. Clinton was not impeached. Nixon was not impeached. To be impeached you have to prove "high crimes and/or treason". How exactly do you wish to prove this? And that is assuming you can get the votes to start the impeachment. What high crime did they commit? Illegal wire tapping? Assuming that is considered a high crime or treason, is there hard evidence (tapes, memos, etc) to convict? How much more money do you wish to spend on special prosecutors and special sessions with no guarantee to even get to the impeachment? Think in the millions. Will it change anything in Iraq?

Voting and getting others to vote is the best way to voice your displeasure and/or running for office yourself. Do not expect others to change things for you - change them yourself.

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Submitted by Publius on Thu, 2008-05-22 10:22.

"Why Isn't George Bush and Dick Cheney Being Impeached????"

You mean, why aren't they...

Well, what do you believe the articles of impeachment ought to be? And what evidence do you have that will support such articles? And what good do you believe impeachment will be considering that they only have eight months left in office? (We all know Congress can't get anything done in a short period of time.)

To wHATUP...

Both Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached. They were impeached by the House of Representatives, which has the sole power of impeachment. You would be right to say that they weren't "officially" impeached - as in they were not removed from office by the Senate trials. But impeachment is an act solely decided by the House, not the Senate. The Senate simply decides the case and determines whether or not removal from office should occur.

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Submitted by wHATUP on Thu, 2008-05-22 10:32.

You are right! I just didn't want to break it down that far. Call it being lazy! I knew someone might pick it up. Damnit!

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Submitted by Publius on Thu, 2008-05-22 10:41.

You've got to be careful around here...some people will take anything you write as truth (as long as they agree with it) and next thing you know, it will be "common knowledge" that nobody can refute with credibility (in their eyes).

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Submitted by JackieRich on Thu, 2008-05-22 10:52.

In your comment you stated that no president has never been impeached. That's not true. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about his affair with Monica Lewenski. Congress had started impeachment hearings aganist President Nixon for illegal wiretapping and other illegal offences. Nixon resigned instead. After Nixon resigned, there were hearings that involved members of the Nixon administration who ended up being put into prison. John Dean, H.R. Haldeman, G. Gordon Liddy. The media at the time reported all of these events. The media is not reporting the illegal activities of the Bush Adminstration. Instead they are reporting trivial things like Britney Spears, Linsey Lohan and Paris Hilton. Sex scanals of politicans, etc. Just about the only way you can really know what's going on is to listen to liberal talk radio or read articles on the internet. Cause you're sure not going to see these adminstration crimes reported on the evening news.

I understand all of what goes into impeachment. In my opinion it will be worth spending the money just to get these thugs out of office and let other politicians know that you just can't do what you want and get away with it. So you would rather spend your tax money on an illegal occupation rather than get these thugs out of office? How misguided some people are on priorities are. Treason is not the only impeachable offense. When a president is involved in illegal activities that directly involve the citizens of this country is an impeachable offense. When a president goes against the constitution that is an impeachable offense, as well. No investigation really needs to be conducted. We who are well informed and the congress know all about the illegal activities of the Bush Adminstration. Bush even tried to get congress to pass a bill to allow wiretapping without a warrant and give immunity to telephone companies who were involved in illegal wiretapping along with the Bush Adminstration. Why do you think most of the people in the Bush Adminstration had to resign? Because they were caught participating in illegal activities. George Bush gave them immunity through executive privilege to protect himself and his adminstration from being exposed themselves.

Yes, it would change things in Iraq. Getting Bush and Cheney out of office would give more power to congress to bring the troops home so no more of our soldiers will be killed or injured. Bush would no longer be in office to veto bills passed by congress to bring the troops home.

Voting is good because it will get the members of congress out who were spinless to stop the Bush Administration. That's why I keep a close watch on how congressmen and senators in my state and area vote. So I can make a good decision on who to vote for when election time comes around.



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Submitted by Publius on Thu, 2008-05-22 11:35.

"The media is not reporting the illegal activities of the Bush Adminstration."

The media has tried repeatedly to tie Bush and Cheney to "illegal activities" for the last several years. Do you honestly believe that they would not report something if they had evidence of it?

"Just about the only way you can really know what's going on is to listen to liberal talk radio or read articles on the internet."

Liberal talk radio? Is there still such a thing? I thought all of those programs failed miserably. Are you saying that liberal talk radio is the only source of truth?

"In my opinion it will be worth spending the money just to get these thugs out of office and let other politicians know that you just can't do what you want and get away with it."

All your rhetoric aside, what is it that they have "gotten away with" that is punishable through impeachment? Give me specific examples of them breaking specific laws. This is how a trial would work, so throwing around meaningless rhetoric does not prove any of your points or a reason for impeachment.

"When a president goes against the constitution that is an impeachable offense, as well. No investigation really needs to be conducted. We who are well informed and the congress know all about the illegal activities of the Bush Adminstration."

This is very frightening. No investigation needed? We are all well-informed? I thought you just said the media wasn't reporting on any of this, so how can we be well-informed? And once again, what are the "illegal" activities that we already know about and how can we prove these things without an investigation?

"Bush would no longer be in office to veto bills passed by congress to bring the troops home."

So now I'm confused. You apparently believe that Bush has unchecked power and that this is a major problem. So your solution is to get someone in the presidency that will sign into law whatever Congress passes? You don't believe in the separation of powers or checks and balances?

I think you need to take the time to figure out exactly what the problem is here. I do believe that you have been largely misinformed both on the process and purposes of our branches of government and on the current happenings in Washington. The practicality of impeaching a president when he is on his way out is absurd and the reasons for doing so are quite laughable considering the evidence...or lack of it.

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Submitted by wHATUP on Thu, 2008-05-22 12:51.

Yes, Yes, Clinton and Johnson were impeached but not removed from office. Publis put forth just about everything I would have said. I would add that removing Bush and Cheney (especially Cheney) would have no effect on our troops as Obama, Clinton or McCain will find out. You cannot remove them wholesale. I believe we need to remove the troops ASAP but realistically I know ASAP means 3 to 4 years for a total withdrawal. Unless you are willing to impeach a non-sitting president (which has never been done)there is no way the proceedings will start in time. Don't forget that Congress can override vetoes should they so desire. Problem is they do not desire. Cheney's only say is in case of a tie in the Senate. Otherwise he has no say. So Congress can not override a veto but they are going to impeach the president and remove him from office? Not likely.

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Submitted by JackieRich on Thu, 2008-05-22 12:54.

When I say media, I mean mainstream media. Fox News, CBS, ABC, CNN. Where most people get their news from. Especially those who don't have access to the internet. I get my information off the internet to keep very well informed. Articles online from the Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Huffington Post very reliable sources of new that the mainstream media does not report.

You, my dear, are really misinformed. Congress is supposed to represent the of the people who elected them into office. Not pass any bill they want. It helps to have a president who support what the majority of the people want. That's how a democracy works. Didn't you study civics in school? A majority of people in this country want George Bush and Dick Cheney impeached and the occupation to end and bring the troops home. Yes, I agree that it is too late to impeach. This democratic majority congress has had since the beginning of 2007 to get this done. If you think that illegal wiretapping of our citizens, torture of prisoners, lying, and acting like a dictator instead of a President who is supposed to uphold to constitution are not good reasons for impeachment for which he swore to do when elected president, then what offenses do you think would be good reasons?

The article I wrote are based on facts not fiction. If your mind is open enough check it out for yourself.

As for reading your articles, I did. Rhetoric filled in my opinion.



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Submitted by Publius on Thu, 2008-05-22 15:51.

By all means, Jackie, show me the "facts" and make your argument. With all the talk about impeachment, I have not seen anyone make a legitimate case...so go ahead and give it a shot. Evidence of crimes, not rhetoric. If your article is based on "facts," you should have no problem presenting them.

"It helps to have a president who support what the majority of the people want. That's how a democracy works. Didn't you study civics in school? A majority of people in this country want George Bush and Dick Cheney impeached and the occupation to end and bring the troops home."

I hope you are not questioning my understanding of government while at the same time believing that it is simply a majority of people in this country who get their way on any given matter.

Oh, yeah...the Huffington Post? Seriously? That was a joke, right?

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Submitted by Publius on Thu, 2008-05-22 16:03.

Oh, I forgot, Jackie...

"As for reading your articles, I did. Rhetoric filled in my opinion."

You read all of them in an hour? Is there any article in particular that you'd like to point out so that I can correct it? Surely, you must have one in mind that stands out amongst the others as "rhetoric filled."

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Submitted by Rebel Rouser on Fri, 2008-05-23 08:23.

"The congress is spineless to stand up to Bush and Cheney. Nancy Polosi took impeachment off the table. Why?? We elected a Democratic majority in 2006 to stop the occupation in Iraq."

EXACTLY!

Dennis Kucinich brought this point up many times in the Dem debates. 2006 was about stopping the war. The Democrats completely rolled over on this issue. Why?

Lack of spine.

To many "pretend" progressives worried about next election.

Actually, congress hasn't really done anything at all except the stupid $600 refund checks. A tax rebate during the war? Are you kidding me?

Bush should have been impeached. Clinton was impeached, but was acquitted by the senate. The house should have impeached Bush and then Cheney. Pelosi didn't feel it would be beneficial to the country. So instead of us standing by principles we took the convenience route.

Spineless.

Nice read +1

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